Pig muck value

[neilo]

I’ve been offered the chance of some pig muck, strawy stuff from a fattening unit. Any idea of the typical nutritional value?

 

[Brisel]

Either sample some or look in RB209.

 

[snarling bee]

IIRC I worked out that 1400 t pig FYM was worth £10k in available/usable nutrients.

 

[ollie989898]

IIRC I worked out that 1400 t pig FYM was worth £10k in available/usable nutrients.

Keep that quiet!

 

[Matt]

IIRC I worked out that 1400 t pig FYM was worth £10k in available/usable nutrients.

can you remember if that Is usable in the first year or total major nutrients?

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

IIRC I worked out that 1400 t pig FYM was worth £10k in available/usable nutrients.

I think you need a new calculator or have a decimal point wrong somewhere?

 

[solo]

Can’t help on values but it will be high nitrogen. My water nitrate test results have dropped significantly since the pigs went. Rocket fuel springs to mind Crops would do very well here when we had pigs. If used regularly you may need to lime more often too. @silverfox would have a better idea. Beware of copper content with your sheep by the way.

 

[DRC]

Not sure on exact nutrient value. Hardly use any P&K since using pig muck and get much better crops all round. I don’t get too worked up about the finer details, just swap straw for it. This time of year, it’ll all go on maize ground.

 

[Serup]

Not sure on exact nutrient value. Hardly use any P&K since using pig muck and get much better crops all round. I don’t get too worked up about the finer details, just swap straw for it. This time of year, it’ll all go on maize ground.

This straw for muck deals should spread all the way over here. I pay for straw on the field, and only a few even want muck back and only if i spread it free of charge and at least double dose of what we write.

 

[Matt]

I think you need a new calculator or have a decimal point wrong somewhere?

Wouldn't be far out. Bloke I know values a mix of cattle fym and pig fym at the £6.50 -£6.75/t mark.

 

[DRC]

This straw for muck deals should spread all the way over here. I pay for straw on the field, and only a few even want muck back and only if i spread it free of charge and at least double dose of what we write.

Why is that do you think.
Getting as much muck on to a farm as you can, has got to be a good thing.

 

[Serup]

Why is that do you think.
Getting as much muck on to a farm as you can, has got to be a good thing.

Arable farmers and their advisors around here believe compaction and rutting is far worse than any benefit from muck, and they can’t get exact receipe for what nutrients we put where.
I don’t understand it, as my best fields at harvest is the ones we give most muck and slurry. Fertiliser does not replace everything we remove.

 

[robbie]

Id work on the values of RB209, I've had muck tested a few times and the values are always give of take the same as the book.

I can't under stand why Peaple get so tide up about the value of muck, give someone the straw and have the muck back.

Whenever I have surplus straw and Peaple ask to buy it I say no, you can borrow it and bring it back when your done...simples!

 

[Serup]

Id work on the values of RB209, I've had muck tested a few times and the values are always give of take the same as the book.

I can't under stand why Peaple get so tide up about the value of muck, give someone the straw and have the muck back.

Whenever I have surplus straw and Peaple ask to buy it I say no, you can borrow it and bring it back when your done...simples!

If you could take a trip round here and talk to my arable and pig farming neighbours that would be great

They believe straw is gold and muck is like nuclear waste.

 

[neilo]

Thanks all. About the same as sheep FYM then, according to RB209.

Not paying for it, other than the cost of shifting & spreading, pig man just getting full up with it currently.
My only concern is that the straw is all bought in from dealers, so it would be foolish to think it didn’t have some of that Eastern County blackgrass in it. None here currently, but hopefully crop rotation with beet, fodder crops and Spring cropping should stop it taking hold?

 

[DRC]

Thanks all. About the same as sheep FYM then, according to RB209.

Not paying for it, other than the cost of shifting & spreading, pig man just getting full up with it currently.
My only concern is that the straw is all bought in from dealers, so it would be foolish to think it didn’t have some of that Eastern County blackgrass in it. None here currently, but hopefully crop rotation with beet, fodder crops and Spring cropping should stop it taking hold?

I’d be very wary if it wasn’t my own straw coming back .

 

[Brisel]

Good crop management will stop any weed being a worsening problem. You will still be importing it with muck from Eastern Counties blackgrass land. If you compost it you’ll mitigate a lot of the seed burden in the muck. Just turning the heaps a couple of times will get most of the viable seed cooked.

 

[Pan mixer]

Good crop management will stop any weed being a worsening problem. You will still be importing it with muck from Eastern Counties blackgrass land. If you compost it you’ll mitigate a lot of the seed burden in the muck. Just turning the heaps a couple of times will get most of the viable seed cooked.

Our muck heaps rarely grow blackgrass even though they are made of straw from blackgrass country (mine) they are all turned and moved a couple of times.

Volunteer barley is another matter.

 

[ollie989898]

Id work on the values of RB209, I've had muck tested a few times and the values are always give of take the same as the book.

I can't under stand why Peaple get so tide up about the value of muck, give someone the straw and have the muck back.

Whenever I have surplus straw and Peaple ask to buy it I say no, you can borrow it and bring it back when your done...simples!

The straw is worth a fair bit of money around here though. Enough to pay for dung to be carted and possibly even spread I would suggest.

Muck definitely needs turning at least once after being heaped up, it breaks down, there is less smell and spreads a lot easier.

 

[DRC]

The straw is worth a fair bit of money around here though. Enough to pay for dung to be carted and possibly even spread I would suggest.

Muck definitely needs turning at least once after being heaped up, it breaks down, there is less smell and spreads a lot easier.

I never bother with that. What a palaver turning a muck heaps would be, especially tipped in fields. Pig muck isn’t like strawy stuff that’s come out of dry cow yards or sheep sheds( which from experience is the worst type of muck). Get it spread with a Bunning and it soon breaks up