poor man management

[ARW]

Maybe so.

But you can't say you've had no days off in 3 years, when in reality you've had every 2nd weekend off. A weekend off feels like a holiday to me.

I agree, I haven’t had a day off in 3 years, apart from 312 days that are weekends so they don’t count!

 

[betweenthelines]

I agree, I haven’t had a day off in 3 years, apart from 312 days that are weekends so they don’t count!

But you work for yourself so it's your choice. Even so, I doubt you have worked solidly 8 hours a day (breaks excepted) Mon-Friday for the last 156 weeks.

If you have, I respectfully suggest you review either your business model or your time management skills.

 

[ARW]

But you work for yourself so it's your choice. Even so, I doubt you have worked solidly 8 hours a day (breaks excepted) Mon-Friday for the last 156 weeks.

If you have, I respectfully suggest you review either your business model or your time management skills.

I was saying that as an example, when somebody tells me they work every day I think they mean 7 days a week when then can actually mean 5 days a week

 

[Chae1]

This is the heart of the problem. You appear to think that three years without a break is OK (although illegal) and in most workplaces not working weekends is accepted as the norm, whereas you seem to regard weekends off as "holidays"

Let me ask, have you ever been an employee, and if so what hours/days did you work?

Yes, had harvest jobs as a student. Just did hours i was asked, never had a weekend off.

Worked for farmers in Australia, did a season as harvest crew in Texas and didn't get weekends off.

 

[buffalo_soldier]

I just do the essentials at weekends, so only 7-8 hours.
Try and make up for it during the week.

 

[Farmer Fin]

I thought a standard herdsman contract was 282 days a year? So if your man had no holidays but every weekend off he would have done 260 days a year. It sounds bad as no holidays but less days in total than a lot of the industry. If he had kids then seeing them every weekend may have worked in his favour.

 

[ollie989898]

As terrible as these farmers are I don't have much sympathy for the workers, you discuss your weekly working schedule before you take the job,if your happy with it you take the job and stick to it, yes things crop up and you may have to swap around for silage time/busy calving periods etc, you also have a set amount of days off a year when you start the job, give your boss a decent amount of notice of when you are going to be off work and stick to it.
If your boss refuses to give you the time off go and get a job somewhere your appreciated because any decent member of staff is an asset

Changing jobs is not that easy for many people- there is your mortgage to pay, bills, moving, kids in school, childcare allowance etc etc etc. I agree that the majority of employers would view staff as an asset and look after them, however.

 

[ollie989898]

I just do the essentials at weekends, so only 7-8 hours.
Try and make up for it during the week.

Used to do the same, bare essentials- Friday would bed everything up well and leave it at that. Only the cows would get scraped and fed daily 7 days a week. Generally an hour or two before going home.

 

[Chae1]

Used to do the same, bare essentials- Friday would bed everything up well and leave it at that. Only the cows would get scraped and fed daily 7 days a week. Generally an hour or two before going home.

Working for somebody?

Or are you a dairy farmer?

 

[Skintagain]

People need to remember that they aren’t doing it for themselves. Working for yourself is a different ball game.

 

[fgc325j]

25 year old man came to me looking for accommodation.. he was cowman on a large 850 cow , 2 farm company ,he was looking for accommodation because he was leaving his job because he had only 3 days off ln last 6 months he was promised every other weekend off when he took the job. This dairy farmer has arable staff as well growing potatoes and veg , there has been plenty of wet days when they could have swapped. every body deserve time off or does the dairy industry expect staff to work 6.5 days a week

I'm afraid there is a lot of "willy waving" still around with regards to hours worked. I know of 4 farmers in
this area who are always boasting about how busy they are. Yet if you visit their yards you can see straight
away that the problem is bad/no organisation.

 

[supercow]

Bearing in mind I couldn’t care less if he had holidays im just saying what he told me, and I would probably believe him! Why on earth would u lie about that. All the people saying weekends are like a holiday, are you self employed? Is it your own business? When last did you have a holiday?

 

[Chae1]

Bearing in mind I couldn’t care less if he had holidays im just saying what he told me, and I would probably believe him! Why on earth would u lie about that. All the people saying weekends are like a holiday, are you self employed? Is it your own business? When last did you have a holiday?

I'm a partner in business. Take 5 days holiday with family a year, not including weekend.

Probably take ten days off a year. If just counting weekdays as holidays.

Work most weekends due to weather, not through choice. Do our own, plus contract spraying. So have to go when condition right. Also run balers contracting, so during harvest just have to go when straws fit. Its amazing how often weather turns better at weekends. As my wife likes to point out!

In winter i just like to go in to help out feeding cows. Would rather 4 of us go in and be finished by lunchtime Saturday, few hours Sunday, than 2 go in and do full days. Thats personal choice.

I've been off a fair bit since new year as been unwell. So not really pulling my weight.

 

[ollie989898]

Working for somebody?

Or are you a dairy farmer?

Working for somebody else. Many years ago now.

 

[supercow]

I'm a partner in business. Take 5 days holiday with family a year, not including weekend.

Probably take ten days off a year. If just counting weekdays as holidays.

Work most weekends due to weather, not through choice. Do our own, plus contract spraying. So have to go when condition right. Also run balers contracting, so during harvest just have to go when straws fit. Its amazing how often weather turns better at weekends. As my wife likes to point out!

In winter i just like to go in to help out feeding cows. Would rather 4 of us go in and be finished by lunchtime Saturday, few hours Sunday, than 2 go in and do full days. Thats personal choice.

I've been off a fair bit since new year as been unwell. So not really pulling my weight.

You obviously work hard, but it’s your own business. Your doing it to build up your own mini empire, you can’t expect employees to have the same work ethic as you

 

[Chae1]

You obviously work hard, but it’s your own business. Your doing it to build up your own mini empire, you can’t expect employees to have the same work ethic as you

I don't.

Struggle to get people to take time off.

Rather not be paying them and do work myself.

 

[ridger]

Why does weekends off not be counted? Haven't took a Saturday off in 19 years apart from one to go a wedding,

 

[jimmer]

Ffs some people need to get a grip
Try telling a NHS nurse you are hard done by having to work weekends, while he/she is in the middle of a 12hr shift at 11pm on a Saturday night
Why are people so obsessed with weekends. Shops, bars, entertainment venues etc are open 7 days a week, and guess what, while you are on your weekend off, the waiter is working, the shop assistant is working, the amusement park staff are working
You get my drift

 

[Chae1]

The NHS is a poor example.

Hospitals practically shut down over weekends.

I was put in hospital a few weeks ago and standard of care on Monday compared to Saturday and Sunday was night and day.

Agree with rest.

 

[JP1]

Every full time employee is entitled to 28 days paid holiday a year (bank holidays are not statutory - just the number of days -28) and this does not include weekends

My contract says 20 days excluding public holidays. I am also required to take 5-7 of those as Management delegated days over the Christmas shutdown