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[ollie989898]

You are joking right? Think it's fine for a stockman to work 5 out of 7 for years, but you've slating the NHS for being poorly organised?

Perhaps the Chief Executive of the Regional Health Authority keeps telling everyone "When I was your age I was lucky to get a couple of hours off to sleep-you need to man up!

The NHS will never be a true 24/7 service. To do that you would need 3 times the existing number of consultants at least and even then, given that some of them will be on £80K plus, how are you going to attract/force/coerce/convince them into working weekends or nights? They won't do it because they don't have to. A LOT of NHS staff already only work part time or reduced hours (4 day weeks and the like) because their salaries are comfortable enough anyway- not just consultants but senior nurses and management staff too. Who can blame them?

I must be the odd one out as I don't really do holidays and I hated being stuck at home. Whilst I was 'out of work' I still did 2 days a week when I was at college but then I had something else to focus on. Being stuck at home with just 4 walls to stare at is death.

 

[Chae1]

The NHS will never be a true 24/7 service. To do that you would need 3 times the existing number of consultants at least and even then, given that some of them will be on £80K plus, how are you going to attract/force/coerce/convince them into working weekends or nights? They won't do it because they don't have to. A LOT of NHS staff already only work part time or reduced hours (4 day weeks and the like) because their salaries are comfortable enough anyway- not just consultants but senior nurses and management staff too. Who can blame them?

I must be the odd one out as I don't really do holidays and I hated being stuck at home. Whilst I was 'out of work' I still did 2 days a week when I was at college but then I had something else to focus on. Being stuck at home with just 4 walls to stare at is death.

Most of them have 2 jobs anyway?

Work for private health companies too.

 

[ollie989898]

Most of them have 2 jobs anyway?

Work for private health companies too.

Unfortunately so.

I don't like private healthcare and will never work in the private sector, although I intend to be a GP but my heart is with the NHS if that makes sense.

 

[Chae1]

You get used to it. I changed our kids and still do for one of them, just a procedure to do now.

I'm a crap dad as those reading this thread have probably worked out! My priorities lye elsewhere.

Didn't really get involved with nappy changing with ours.

Wife claims she's a single parent!

 

[ollie989898]

I'm a crap dad as those reading this thread have probably worked out! My priorities lye elsewhere.

Didn't really get involved with nappy changing with ours.

Wife claims she's a single parent!

Unfortunately I don't think I am much different: when studying I shut my office door and put headphones on. Wife is going to be a tractor widow for the next 18 months until Uni as well. She is good at spending money though....

One of my biggest concerns is the fact I will be studying whilst the kids go through their first 5 years at school and I won't have even the cash to buy them an ice cream. I will have academic holidays off so will have to make the effort to spend time with them whilst they are off school too.

 

[seedman stains]

Its a sad world out there no time off ,my weekends off were watching the kids and their sport,now they are older i miss it ,you cant get this time back .All work and no play etc

 

[ollie989898]

Its a sad world out there no time off ,my weekends off were watching the kids and their sport,now they are older i miss it ,you cant get this time back .All work and no play etc

I've already nailed my flag to that mast. In my mind I've already written the letter asking for forgiveness, when they are teenagers and I am able to pay for cars, insurance and deposits on a house etc I hope they understand.

 

[seedman stains]

But its not the same ,you cant get those years back

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Unfortunately I don't think I am much different: when studying I shut my office door and put headphones on. Wife is going to be a tractor widow for the next 18 months until Uni as well. She is good at spending money though....

One of my biggest concerns is the fact I will be studying whilst the kids go through their first 5 years at school and I won't have even the cash to buy them an ice cream. I will have academic holidays off so will have to make the effort to spend time with them whilst they are off school too.

Camping, kids love it and it can cost buttons if you need it to.
Specially easy if you are going to have similar availability to them.

 

[Farmer Fin]

Unfortunately I don't think I am much different: when studying I shut my office door and put headphones on. Wife is going to be a tractor widow for the next 18 months until Uni as well. She is good at spending money though....

One of my biggest concerns is the fact I will be studying whilst the kids go through their first 5 years at school and I won't have even the cash to buy them an ice cream. I will have academic holidays off so will have to make the effort to spend time with them whilst they are off school too.

Are you planning on doing medicine at uni? Second degree? You do realise that after your 5 year degree you will have your junior doctor years and placements all over the shop to get through? Unless there is some sort of GP fast track.

 

[Beef farmer]

Are you planning on doing medicine at uni? Second degree? You do realise that after your 5 year degree you will have your junior doctor years and placements all over the shop to get through? Unless there is some sort of GP fast track.

And why drive a tractor for the 1st 18 months

 

[ollie989898]

Are you planning on doing medicine at uni? Second degree? You do realise that after your 5 year degree you will have your junior doctor years and placements all over the shop to get through? Unless there is some sort of GP fast track.

Not worried about that at least I will be getting paid.

Previous job was on the road all day and working late so used to all that.

 

[Farmer Fin]

Not worried about that at least I will be getting paid.

Previous job was on the road all day and working late so used to all that.

Good luck mate. Although don’t think any other job can prepare you for junior doctor positions!

 

[ollie989898]

Good luck mate. Although don’t think any other job can prepare you for junior doctor positions!

I've shadowed them myself. Its a very different world for them now than it was. What you see on TV is overly dramatised.

 

[Farmer Fin]

I've shadowed them myself. Its a very different world for them now than it was. What you see on TV is overly dramatised.

Lots of friends who are doctors.

 

[ollie989898]

Camping, kids love it and it can cost buttons if you need it to.
Specially easy if you are going to have similar availability to them.

Yes we love camping and already have all the gear, 6 man tent, the works. Have been many many times but not since the boy arrived. Will certainly have to do it again next autumn.

 

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