Rangepoint rtx

[Landrover]

Can anyone give me a rough price of a years sub to rangepoint rtx please ?

 

[Happy]

£295

 

[e3120]

If you stump up for several years it's a bit cheaper.

 

[Godber]

Has anyone experienced how accurate RTX Rangepoint is for repeatability year to year?
For example could tramlines be put back in the same position from one autumn to the next?
Thanks

 

[Longneck]

Accurate enough for cereals. I’ve been doing it that way for a few years now and it’s fine. Sometimes have to nudge the odd one but that’s all.

 

[jcawley]

Has anyone experienced how accurate RTX Rangepoint is for repeatability year to year?
For example could tramlines be put back in the same position from one autumn to the next?
Thanks

50 cm or 20" repeatable

 

[Godber]

Thanks for replies. I have seen the 50cm claim but thought in reality it might be consistently and hopefully a little better.

 

[Andrew]

Thanks for replies. I have seen the 50cm claim but thought in reality it might be consistently and hopefully a little better.

I’ve never noticed any drift, but I don’t suppose they can guarantee it

 

[Farma Parma]

it can drift in 15mins if you dont keep using it & sit still for too long, or drive away to yard for seed etc & return back to the field.
Just nudge it back its near enuff. Makes a good operator better at there job if you ask me.

 

[Northern farmer]

Thanks for replies. I have seen the 50cm claim but thought in reality it might be consistently and hopefully a little better.

Where have you seen a product advertised by the manufacturer with pessimistic figures? The 50 cm figure was for year-to-year "drift". Inconvenient when used to RTK but still reasonable if you only need to fix that drift once per entering the field. The 15 cm pass-to-pass drift annoys me more. Way too much in my opinion for cereals.

Any receiver works fine if you nudge the error every time it appears. This in my opinion is almost as working manually but steering via the screen instead of the steering wheel (unless one accepts the 15 cm inaccuracy).

 

[Godber]

it can drift in 15mins if you dont keep using it & sit still for too long, or drive away to yard for seed etc & return back to the field.
Just nudge it back its near enuff. Makes a good operator better at there job if you ask me.

Are you describing the basic free egnos signal because this would be our experience for that system. We have used RTX before and would give its day to day performance a notch above egnos but took no notice of its year to year repeatability to put tramlines back in the same position. We do have the drilling tractor on RTK but would like the spray pass in front of the drill to run in the same position as the following drill would place the tramlines!

 

[Godber]

Where have you seen a product advertised by the manufacturer with pessimistic figures? The 50 cm figure was for year-to-year "drift". Inconvenient when used to RTK but still reasonable if you only need to fix that drift once per entering the field. The 15 cm pass-to-pass drift annoys me more. Way too much in my opinion for cereals.

Any receiver works fine if you nudge the error every time it appears. This in my opinion is almost as working manually but steering via the screen instead of the steering wheel (unless one accepts the 15 cm inaccuracy).

I would guess RTX at 50cm or better year to year would suffice. We can unlock if needs be although its pricey!

 

[Farma Parma]

Are you describing the basic free egnos signal because this would be our experience for that system. We have used RTX before and would give its day to day performance a notch above egnos but took no notice of its year to year repeatability to put tramlines back in the same position. We do have the drilling tractor on RTK but would like the spray pass in front of the drill to run in the same position as the following drill would place the tramlines!

Nope Trimble RTX using GFX-750 & NAV900 had it 3years now. & £295 annual sub
I never save any A/B Lines as i do diff things in diff fields diff ways every year

 

[Godber]

Nope Trimble RTX using GFX-750 & NAV900 had it 3years now. & £295 annual sub
I never save any A/B Lines as i do diff things in diff fields diff ways every year

 

[Farma Parma]

I would guess RTX at 50cm or better year to year would suffice. We can unlock if needs be although its pricey!

if your a half savvy operator RTX is all you need & its affordable.
The die harders always want RTK but its at £700 a year sub afaik & another £4k on most tractors ontop.
but if you want 100% repeatable A/B lines that never move thats where job seems to be at

 

[Andrew]

if your a half savvy operator RTX is all you need & its affordable.
The die harders always want RTK but its at £700 a year sub afaik & another £4k on most tractors ontop.
but if you want 100% repeatable A/B lines that never move thats where job seems to be at

I can see the need for RTK for things like veg work but not for arable.

If you want it to put tramlines in the same place every year I’d put a fence post in the hedge line in the right place to back up to to shift to the right place then work from that?

 

[Farma Parma]

I can see the need for RTK for things like veg work but not for arable.

If you want it to put tramlines in the same place every year I’d put a fence post in the hedge line in the right place to back up to to shift to the right place then work from that?

Yeah totally agree with all of that. well said.
I was a total non AutoSteering convert until i actually seen the diff it actually made to keeping things just lined up better & i can drill straight as the next man ive had plenty years
exp doing it, long before this tech was available thats for sure.
some years there are in the same place but not always.
Easy enough to make new A/B line its hardly rocket science.
My KV Geospread runs on the free Satellites & it suffers from drift from saved field Boundaries.
but quite easily lined up again or just make new ones.

Late Father once jammed a red walkers crisp packet in the hedgeback to get a straight mark when ploughing off the odd shaped headlands & it was arrow straight.

This Tech should be used to help us not totally do all of the job i think & i still use markers on my combi drill regardless anyways.

 

[Northern farmer]

if your a half savvy operator RTX is all you need & its affordable.
The die harders always want RTK but its at £700 a year sub afaik & another £4k on most tractors ontop.
but if you want 100% repeatable A/B lines that never move thats where job seems to be at

Remember RTK may also be a lot less expensive than Rangepoint RTX, for me it is. Run a few tractors from your private base with no annual costs.

Why do you see RTK needed for veg? People used to manage it without any auto-steer options. I don't think RTK or rangepoint are needed for any work, they all are useful though. The more accurate the system, the more useful it is. Also more expensive. Pretty impossible to say if it is too expensive for one task but not too expensive for some other.

 

[Farma Parma]

Remember RTK may also be a lot less expensive than Rangepoint RTX, for me it is. Run a few tractors from your private base with no annual costs.

Why do you see RTK needed for veg? People used to manage it without any auto-steer options. I don't think RTK or rangepoint are needed for any work, they all are useful though. The more accurate the system, the more useful it is. Also more expensive. Pretty impossible to say if it is too expensive for one task but not too expensive for some other.

All diff ways of viewing it.
here is mine if i wasn't a Tenant id run Fendts & rep them after 5000hrs or when warranty runs out & have them all on RTK simples
but seeing i have rent to pay its the cheaper version & massey tractors that will now have to run to 10000hrs regardless
Maybes some of the Veg folks are on a good contract maybes not i have no knowledge of that sector.
Most of them own there Farms tho.
certainly any up here do.

 

[Farma Parma]

Remember RTK may also be a lot less expensive than Rangepoint RTX, for me it is. Run a few tractors from your private base with no annual costs.

Why do you see RTK needed for veg? People used to manage it without any auto-steer options. I don't think RTK or rangepoint are needed for any work, they all are useful though. The more accurate the system, the more useful it is. Also more expensive. Pretty impossible to say if it is too expensive for one task but not too expensive for some other.

i could live with the annual sub but not the extra outlay for never moving A/B lines when there easy to line up again.
ive only two tractors that share my single guidance setup anyways.
Some of the veg folks have a system on the implement & the tractor so it must be needed for accuracy somewhere.