restoration photos

multi power

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Location
pembrokeshire
the customer is paying and thats what he wants the finish and plus it shows how good we are at paint finishing, in my eyes the customer that pays can have what ever he wants we sell alot of restorations on the back of a completed one in the showroom it works for us and its our way
Of course the customer is right. But having said that isn't the point of a restoration to return it to factory condition? That's not how it left the factory
Just to be clear I'm not knocking your work in any way
 

John 1594

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Location
Cambridgeshire
Of course the customer is right. But having said that isn't the point of a restoration to return it to factory condition? That's not how it left the factory
Just to be clear I'm not knocking your work in any way

Warts and all finish, as i call it.

Tbh i dont mind the occasional blemish in the tinwork, it shows someone has gone to the trouble of trying to save the old tinwork, as opposed to scrapping it and fitting new stuff whats half the thickness and looks "tinny"

Same with the chassis, i see one 35 where the whole back axle had been covered in filler and smoothed off to a flat finish, as opposed to the rough casting it should have been when it left coventry

This is as close as ive ever got to perfection, it had 3 things letting it down to be a perfect copy of a factory finished model. It needed Dunlop Fieldmaster tyres as opposed to BKT, Dunlop "rubbilo" seat cushions instead of modern synthetic foam ones, and the main battery lead needed to be brown as opposed to red. Other than that, you couldnt fault it anywhere

All the tinwork was original, except the front nose cone, which had been replaced at some point, albeit with another genuine one, as a 65 build 770 would have had a flat sided nose, as opposed to the "gilled" one what had been fitted.

Cost of the paint for it came to less than £150.
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Wow! Those Masseys look really, really smart. A credit to all those involved in bringing them up to 'as new' showroom appearance. Have restored one or two Masseys myself to a reasonably good standard, but these are top drawer examples!
thankyou very much alot of time goes into them and it gives us job satisfaction
 
Of course the customer is right. But having said that isn't the point of a restoration to return it to factory condition? That's not how it left the factory
Just to be clear I'm not knocking your work in any way
yes i totally agree with your point, thats why we kind of call our jobs "better than new" we dont ever describe as new factory look, we do the best finish with in a price and if we are to put our name to it its at our finish
thanx
Everybody has their own view on how it should be done,we are not rivet counters lifes just to short and we have that many to do
Thanx again its causing quite a stir is this paint haha
 

John 1594

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Location
Cambridgeshire
yes i totally agree with your point, thats why we kind of call our jobs "better than new" we dont ever describe as new factory look, we do the best finish with in a price and if we are to put our name to it its at our finish
thanx
Everybody has their own view on how it should be done,we are not rivet counters lifes just to short and we have that many to do
Thanx again its causing quite a stir is this paint haha


Quality over quantity though....there is as much, if not more satisfaction in knowing that every single detail down to the last rivet is correct, as there is in seeing your face in a paint finish surely. So much so that when you take it to a show, any faults found with it are ones you intentionally left.

You could no doubt charge even more was you to refine your work practices, to cater for those who wish to have something what is not just a pretty paint job. As the people who wish to own a "restored original" are usually those who had one when they were new, and wish to re-create that feeling of getting a brand new tractor, even down to it being delivered with the spare keys tied together with sisal twine, and the owners manual wrapped in brown paper in the toolbox, as was customary then
 
Quality over quantity though....there is as much, if not more satisfaction in knowing that every single detail down to the last rivet is correct, as there is in seeing your face in a paint finish surely. So much so that when you take it to a show, any faults found with it are ones you intentionally left.

You could no doubt charge even more was you to refine your work practices, to cater for those who wish to have something what is not just a pretty paint job. As the people who wish to own a "restored original" are usually those who had one when they were new, and wish to re-create that feeling of getting a brand new tractor, even down to it being delivered with the spare keys tied together with sisal twine, and the owners manual wrapped in brown paper in the toolbox, as was customary then
Yea to right
 
We orderd white exhaust after white exhaust they all damaged and go brown after a road run so we put black1s on for road runs this was taken 2 minutes before i gave her her 1st run out hence didnt want to discolor the 7th white pipe haha,
What is the year that the white exhausts were changed to black ive askd many people that no more than me and every answer was diffrent
Thanx james
I even spoke a guy that use to deliver them new and an he said the fit an finish of some tractors wer awful ie gauges not straight, mudgaurds not on square, bonnets not fiting properly some had white exhausts when they wer meant to be black,
i guess they wher sneaking a few through to get rid of them,
I would imagein when the coventry plant was runing they wher knocking quite a few tractors out would of been marvalous to see i was born to late again dahm!
 
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DeeGee

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Location
North East Wales
Are the original white exhaust pipes available with the long top pipe above the silencer? Got a useless white pipe on the 135 which is too short and is rusting and flaking the paint off after only 500 hours. Don't want black as they were never fitted new, are the white originals available anywhere? Surely there has to be a market for them?
 

DeeGee

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Location
North East Wales
AFAIK white exhausts were fitted to all 100 series tractors with white canvas cabs and the metal '8' series cabs. Did black come in on the last 135 QD cab models?
200 series all had black enamelled pipes as did 500 and 600 models as far as I know.
I have a freind in the exhaust system industry - as you do - so will ask him what are the chances of manufacturing 'proper' Massey white pipes.
 

SMID

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Sorn Ayrshire
Ive a white exhaust on my 65 it was all burned in the middle , took it back to the bare metal an gave it a whole can of heat resistant paint, took holesaw and made it straight through.Its had one or two blasts of hard work and it seems to be lasting ok its a bit noisier though 005.JPG
 
Ive a white exhaust on my 65 it was all burned in the middle , took it back to the bare metal an gave it a whole can of heat resistant paint, took holesaw and made it straight through.Its had one or two blasts of hard work and it seems to be lasting ok its a bit noisier though

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Ive a white exhaust on my 65 it was all burned in the middle , took it back to the bare metal an gave it a whole can of heat resistant paint, took holesaw and made it straight through.Its had one or two blasts of hard work and it seems to be lasting ok its a bit noisier though View attachment 343890

Nice 65 ther, I do like the 65's
 

John 1594

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Location
Cambridgeshire
I seem to remember was a company not so long ago that produced a limited number of the original style 35 exhausts, ie 2 piece with the top pipe being clamped to the silencer and removable, which is how they were originally.
 

SMID

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Sorn Ayrshire
I seem to remember was a company not so long ago that produced a limited number of the original style 35 exhausts, ie 2 piece with the top pipe being clamped to the silencer and removable, which is how they were originally.
The original exhaust like that would good. Burgess ones on the 35s at that time had a wee bit of a whistle ,can hear it yet(y)
 

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