Sip Tedder

[Deepseaman]

Any one using or used a sip 615 , or 685 tedder, looking at getting a new tedder for next season and wanting a review or people's experience, currently running a lely 600 which does a nice job , but due for replacement.

 

[Mark C]

@cleverdick has a big trailed one I think

 

[Still Farming]

Some big grassland demo's coming up this year to see them all hopefully working.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Any one using or used a sip 615 , or 685 tedder, looking at getting a new tedder for next season and wanting a review or people's experience, currently running a lely 600 which does a nice job , but due for replacement.

Lely is the best as you should know that with havin used it. If you go for another breed youl be sorely disappointed

 

[Deepseaman]

Lely is the best as you should know that with havin used it. If you go for another breed youl be sorely disappointed

I hope not , as cannot get smaller lely now. Unsure of what to replace it with however , as it does throw heavy crops out nicely , and doesn't miss bits , that's why asking to see if anything else is any good.

 

[daveydiesel1]

I hope not , as cannot get smaller lely now. Unsure of what to replace it with however , as it does throw heavy crops out nicely , and doesn't miss bits , that's why asking to see if anything else is any good.

Accordin to lely site brochure the smallest they make is a 520 and your currently usin a 600 which is listed in there brochure so whats the problem way that?

 

[Deepseaman]

Accordin to lely site brochure the smallest they make is a 520 and your currently usin a 600 which is listed in there brochure so whats the problem way that?

Thought they are out of manufacturing now , since agco bought them out

 

[neilo]

Thought they are out of manufacturing now , since agco bought them out

Agco have started making them again, in Fendt colours, but only the larger machines iirc.

 

[neilo]

I hope not , as cannot get smaller lely now. Unsure of what to replace it with however , as it does throw heavy crops out nicely , and doesn't miss bits , that's why asking to see if anything else is any good.

I went to look at a new Lely tedder 2 years ago, and bought a Malone 4 rotor instead. It's a better built machine, particularly in the headstock, but with very similar hook tines. I've been very pleased with it. If you like the Lely tine design, they are certainly worth looking at, in the 4-6 rotor size (they don't make bigger).

It still has larger rotors though, like the Lely, whereas Sip (& others) will tell you that more, smaller rotors clean the ground better. There may be something in that of course, but the hook tines work OK IME, and tend to leave any stones & soil where they were.

 

[sticky]

We have a twose 6 rotor tedder which has sip stamped all over it, I personally wouldn't have another. The shaft has pulled out of the gearbox three times along with other annoyances but it has been run on too big a tractor over ridge and furrow.
My next door neighbour has a couple of kuhn's and I have been impressed with them over the years.

 

[Boohoo]

Accordin to lely site brochure the smallest they make is a 520 and your currently usin a 600 which is listed in there brochure so whats the problem way that?

Smallest Lely design, Fendt tedder available new is the 770

 

[Martin Holden]

We have a twose 6 rotor tedder which has sip stamped all over it, I personally wouldn't have another. The shaft has pulled out of the gearbox three times along with other annoyances but it has been run on too big a tractor over ridge and furrow.
My next door neighbour has a couple of kuhn's and I have been impressed with them over the years.

If you mean the input shaft has pulled out of the main gearbox, was the tractor to PTO shaft nice a telescopic? Also depending on model it may have been an Alp spec model which uses a cheaper PTO which would need regular greasing to remain telescopic.
To be fair the current models are quite a bit different to those originally marketed by Twose.

Edit

did you go back to your dealer about this problem? I only ask as I’ve come across a few other owners of Twose imported SIP machines that for some reason didn’t get help or assistance when issues occurred. That’s not the way I work!

 

[Still Farming]

Plenty of 4 star tedders out there.
Lots in Lamma

 

[Clever Dic]

@cleverdick has a big trailed one I think

I have had the 15m on demo for a few days and was impressed enough to say it will be the next tedder I buy.
I like the small rotor design which works well at picking all the crop up ,overall well thought out and built.

 

[Andrew]

I have had the 15m on demo for a few days and was impressed enough to say it will be the next tedder I buy.
I like the small rotor design which works well at picking all the crop up ,overall well thought out and built.

How does it compare to the Lelys (Fendt)? Much better, or because Fendt aren’t making a 15m?

 

[Still Farming]

Reco was/ is good stuff re badged too.

 

[Dave W]

Looked at most tedders at lamma. Personally thought the SIP looked the best of the bunch.
@Grassman has had a quote on one and it was a good bit dearer than others i believe

 

[Clever Dic]

How does it compare to the Lelys (Fendt)? Much better, or because Fendt aren’t making a 15m?

To start with I looked at it because of the possible demise of the Lely.
In truth I have always preffered a small rotor machine as I believe across a range of conditions and mower widths small rotors are less of a compromise then large.
In my book the Lely is sold to me on its build quality particularly the 15m which is tank like.
However I think the hook tine is more of a matter of opinion. We always ted at least twice and up to 5/6 times depending on weather so tine type I feel is not important..physics dictate wet heavy lumps fall to the ground 1st and often get buried hence multiple passes to even this out. Likewise small rotors are better at picking flat to the ground crop up.
Build wise Lely is top....

 

[Andrew]

To start with I looked at it because of the possible demise of the Lely.
In truth I have always preffered a small rotor machine as I believe across a range of conditions and mower widths small rotors are less of a compromise then large.
In my book the Lely is sold to me on its build quality particularly the 15m which is tank like.
However I think the hook tine is more of a matter of opinion. We always ted at least twice and up to 5/6 times depending on weather so tine type I feel is not important..physics dictate wet heavy lumps fall to the ground 1st and often get buried hence multiple passes to even this out. Likewise small rotors are better at picking flat to the ground crop up.
Build wise Lely is top....

Sounds like you think along similar lines to me, build quality and strength of the Lely is king. The hook tines are a necessary evil due to the large rotors.

If only Fendt could build a Fella tedder in the Lely style - ie 50% stronger across the board, keeping the small rotors, they’d be onto a winner.

 

[Martin Holden]

Looked at most tedders at lamma. Personally thought the SIP looked the best of the bunch.
@Grassman has had a quote on one and it was a good bit dearer than others i believe

Ah, I think this is a deal where the wrong version was quoted. I spoke to our dealer who told me “we were expensive” and it transpired he was pricing a mounted version of our big trailer beast and yes, that is more expensive than our 8 rotor top end of the standard mounted range.