Stobarts a case in point ?

[JeepJeep]

Whats full tang?

A Tang.

Will be male aged 18-28, living in north Armagh area, more psychically someone who drinks in The Famous Grouse Bar. These young men can be noticed by a their V8 Scania jacket and in more recent years they have diversified and the jackets will have a company website on back with a Scania badge on the front , a Ben shearman shirt, a Brown belt, denim jeans and a pair of super Hampton boots.
Before they gain there HGV licences they shall have done at least one season of Silage (or as they will say “the grass”).
In the summer months they can be found at most major truck shows, they seem to hunt in packs as there is normally a number of them together, listening to Garth brooks and tri axel music. Alought there may be 7-8 of their lorries in a small area they like to congregate in on single cab sometime up to 12 of them at a time. (Bewarned and be careful whilst passing them as one wrong move could lead to copious amounts of unprovoked verbal slagging to any passer by, it’s the tang equivalent to the travellers grabbing.
Their Yoke will be a V8 Scania Topline.
It will have the full frilly curtain and led scania griffin logo on the back wall , straight pipes and will have lots of Kelsa accessories. He will pull a fridge trailer which he will call a frigo.
He will normally do Northern Ireland to mainland UK which he will call the bean, five trips every two weeks and will do two laps of the parking lot when arriving and leaving using as many gear changes and blip the throttle between every gear change.

 

[Courier]

Unless his new one is a car-derived van (a goods vehicle which is constructed or adapted as a derivative of a passenger vehicle, and has a maximum laden weight not exceeding 2.0 tons ) he is still on the lower speed limits.

And recorded as CDV on the V5.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Son in law had a transit tipper.got a ticket for doing 55 in a 60 limit.he had no idea it was lower speed limit for a tipper than a van.

commercial vehicles are lower at 50 mph

 

[Chae1]

Are you sure on this> I know its not good etiquette to question the master . I am sure my brother who is a police officer told me that the ones in the traffic cars will ping if they pass an uninsured, un registeered etc plate?

Have you ever considered being a police officer?

I think with your black and white attitude you'd make a really good one.

 

[Chae1]

A Tang.

Will be male aged 18-28, living in north Armagh area, more psychically someone who drinks in The Famous Grouse Bar. These young men can be noticed by a their V8 Scania jacket and in more recent years they have diversified and the jackets will have a company website on back with a Scania badge on the front , a Ben shearman shirt, a Brown belt, denim jeans and a pair of super Hampton boots.
Before they gain there HGV licences they shall have done at least one season of Silage (or as they will say “the grass”).
In the summer months they can be found at most major truck shows, they seem to hunt in packs as there is normally a number of them together, listening to Garth brooks and tri axel music. Alought there may be 7-8 of their lorries in a small area they like to congregate in on single cab sometime up to 12 of them at a time. (Bewarned and be careful whilst passing them as one wrong move could lead to copious amounts of unprovoked verbal slagging to any passer by, it’s the tang equivalent to the travellers grabbing.
Their Yoke will be a V8 Scania Topline.
It will have the full frilly curtain and led scania griffin logo on the back wall , straight pipes and will have lots of Kelsa accessories. He will pull a fridge trailer which he will call a frigo.
He will normally do Northern Ireland to mainland UK which he will call the bean, five trips every two weeks and will do two laps of the parking lot when arriving and leaving using as many gear changes and blip the throttle between every gear change.

Got to admit, I've a respect for them. Take a lot of balls to drive a big truck in a different country at a young age.



Don't think I could do it now.

 

[puntabrava]

A Tang.

Will be male aged 18-28, living in north Armagh area, more psychically someone who drinks in The Famous Grouse Bar. These young men can be noticed by a their V8 Scania jacket and in more recent years they have diversified and the jackets will have a company website on back with a Scania badge on the front , a Ben shearman shirt, a Brown belt, denim jeans and a pair of super Hampton boots.
Before they gain there HGV licences they shall have done at least one season of Silage (or as they will say “the grass”).
In the summer months they can be found at most major truck shows, they seem to hunt in packs as there is normally a number of them together, listening to Garth brooks and tri axel music. Alought there may be 7-8 of their lorries in a small area they like to congregate in on single cab sometime up to 12 of them at a time. (Bewarned and be careful whilst passing them as one wrong move could lead to copious amounts of unprovoked verbal slagging to any passer by, it’s the tang equivalent to the travellers grabbing.
Their Yoke will be a V8 Scania Topline.
It will have the full frilly curtain and led scania griffin logo on the back wall , straight pipes and will have lots of Kelsa accessories. He will pull a fridge trailer which he will call a frigo.
He will normally do Northern Ireland to mainland UK which he will call the bean, five trips every two weeks and will do two laps of the parking lot when arriving and leaving using as many gear changes and blip the throttle between every gear change.

That’s a post from Trucknet a few years ago.

 

[Frodo2]

We had a comedian ,in for straw ,set off 4am onto ferry ,down to bury st edmunds with concrete panels , tipped ; into us at 6 pm loaded sheeted up , changed number plates , different card in , red diesel line connected into trailer chassis tank , and set off back ,he said he would change number plates again at newark because of cameras on a17 , ,who; s number plates are they , no idea he said just make them up . And he drove back to stranerar to hit 7 am ferry , ,
Wife asked him if he had wife and family ,and showed her concern about 27 hrs driving , .what if you have an accident ,and kill your self , his anser ,was , i will never know ,will i , these irish lads know how to do it , keep her lit as they say ,limiter rigged too ,and the v8 s tuned up

There have to be easier ways to make money.

 

[JeepJeep]

That’s a post from Trucknet a few years ago.

Correct, Sums it up though.

 

[Robt]

Have you ever considered being a police officer?

I think with your black and white attitude you'd make a really good one.

Without rules where would we be.... I’d rather be black and white than follow the crowd and be all wishy washy...

 

[Chae1]

Without rules where would we be.... I’d rather be black and white than follow the crowd and be all wishy washy...

Depends i guess, i sometimes prefer to operate in the grey area inbetween.

 

[d williams]

All commercial vehicles are 50 on single carriage way, 60 dual and 70 Motorways. Has been for years. Wether its a tipper makes no difference. Ignorance is no defense.

So your old commercial disco under those rules and defenders???

 

[ollandroverman]

So your old commercial disco under those rules and defenders???

Yes, and always have been

 

[glasshouse]

I thought all the details of vehicles now were held on a central database, meaning if you hadn't paid your car tax or had no MOT or insurance the authorities only need come to your address and collect it for scrap?

Not if its on your own land.

 

[Cowabunga]

So your old commercial disco under those rules and defenders???

Factory Disco commercials should be classed as car-derived vans so should have normal car speed limits in my opinion. Just as an Escort van would be but the Transit Connect would be subject to the lower limit, because the Escort was car derived while the TC was not.

There may be some weight limit or something that overrides the 'car derived' rule I suppose, but can't think what that would be. Nobody could deny that any factory Discovery commercial was not car derived, that's for sure.

 

[Robt]

So your old commercial disco under those rules and defenders???

Yes ,
Edit, In the eyes of the law you are wrong I think mr duck. But happy to be proved wrong. I think it now goes on taxation class

 

[ollandroverman]

Factory Disco commercials should be classed as car-derived vans so should have normal car speed limits in my opinion. Just as an Escort van would be but the Transit Connect would be subject to the lower limit, because the Escort was car derived while the TC was not.

There may be some weight limit or something that overrides the 'car derived' rule I suppose, but can't think what that would be. Nobody could deny that any factory Discovery commercial was not car derived, that's for sure.

A car derived van is ...."a goods vehicle which is constructed or adapted as a derivative of a passenger vehicle, and has a maximum laden weight not exceeding 2.0 tons"

There are few vans that fall under 2 tons gross weight

 

[Cowabunga]

Yes ,
Edit, In the eyes of the law you are wrong I think mr duck. But happy to be proved wrong. I think it now goes on taxation class

Van speed limits and pickup speed limits explained

Info on UK speed limits for vans, also covering pickups, dual-purpose vehicles and car-derived vans - on Parkers Vans and Pickups

www.parkers.co.uk

 

[Cowabunga]

A car derived van is ...."a goods vehicle which is constructed or adapted as a derivative of a passenger vehicle, and has a maximum laden weight not exceeding 2.0 tons"

There are few vans that fall under 2 tons gross weight

You have hit the nail on its head. There is indeed a weight limit of 2 tons laden, which the Disco obviously exceeds by about a ton. It is quite ridiculous that it is subject to a lower limit than the mechanically identical car of course, which just proves once more that the law is a complete arse.

 

[Werzle]

Tinkler and stobart throwing mud now as tomorrows deadline approaches

 

[Courier]

You have hit the nail on its head. There is indeed a weight limit of 2 tons laden, which the Disco obviously exceeds by about a ton. It is quite ridiculous that it is subject to a lower limit than the mechanically identical car of course, which just proves once more that the law is a complete arse.

There is also a separate class of "Dual Purpose" vehicle which includes some of those with 4WD which is allowed normal road car speed limits IIRC.