Sward lifter

[Captain Slack]

 

[Captain Slack]

Wearing metal and style for Min Disturbance subsoiling
Is a mine field . The above point from APM To suit Sumo Lds is very cost effective with tungsten on the point wing and shin.
The profilab/ Mischel style does a very good job but expensive to run.
Metcalf Ng and Tilso expensive, but both offer different wing widths to suit different leg spacing and working depths.

 

[Tim Howard]

Yes I do make a subsoiler with discs suitable for grassland and arable.
I do also supply kits to fit any machine. This picture is a worn out low disturbance foot.

 

[Sid]

Or you could build one yourself

If that is wet because its spring time then that will be doing more harm then good.

Subsoiling needs to be done in the back end of the year

 

[Tim Howard]

If that is wet because its spring time then that will be doing more harm then good.

Subsoiling needs to be done in the back end of the year

Good point but most subsoiling is now shallow and in place of ploughing. Lincolnshire have had there share of rain and a lot of fields have water standing in them. There is water standing on ploughed land ploughed late but most think ploughing in the wet is OK, what is the difference? and what would you do as these fields have been flooded for so long that they will not grow a crop?

 

[Tommy]

If that is wet because its spring time then that will be doing more harm then good.

Subsoiling needs to be done in the back end of the year

I did a few runs up the field just to try it out, some of the welds would still have been warm. That part of land sits on gravel and didn’t really need doing

 

[Toms820]

What kind of acreas a hour are people covering would about 5 acres a hour sound right?

 

[Tim Howard]

MPH x Width in feet is a days work, it gives you turning time in a decent field for a 10hr day.
At 5mph and 10ft wide you should do 5 acres per hour.

 

[Toms820]

MPH x Width in feet is a days work, it gives you turning time in a decent field for a 10hr day.
At 5mph and 10ft wide you should do 5 acres per hour.

Cheers handy to know that

 

[le bon paysan]

What kind of acreas a hour are people covering would about 5 acres a hour sound right?

With 110 HP and 8 ft wide I do about 1.2 Hc / hr

 

[james ds]

I can’t see much difference between the finish the erth and the sumo leave to be honest. The erth doesn’t look as well built as the sumo and having a sumo dealer just down the road is handy for parts which are the main reasons I’m swaying towards the sumo. I’ve got to amit around from where I am I’ve never seen a Sward lifter working and neither has anyone I know

You can do a football pitch with the Erth and play on it straight away , you won't play on a pitch after a sumo for a while

 

[Captain Slack]

You can do a football pitch with the Erth and play on it straight away , you won't play on a pitch after a sumo for a while

 

[Tim Howard]

Its easy with an inline machine to lift a layer up and lay it down again without shattering any hard layers, Good for football but it can be a bit pointless if you are trying to shatter a pan.

 

[james ds]

Its easy with an inline machine to lift a layer up and lay it down again without shattering any hard layers, Good for football but it can be a bit pointless if you are trying to shatter a pan.

If you look at the Erth working you will see that it lifts the complete sod , lets air in under and cracks the complete sod . Works well.

 

[NI farmer]

If you look at the Erth working you will see that it lifts the complete sod , lets air in under and cracks the complete sod . Works well.

5 leg Erth here
Great machine

 

[Boohoo]

5 leg Erth here
Great machine

Is that 5 legs in work all the time or the one that you can use as either a 3 leg or a 4 leg? The 4 leg I've used gave too much lift at times, 3 legs would've been better in the really heavy, well compacted stuff.

 

[Tim Howard]

If you look at the Erth working you will see that it lifts the complete sod , lets air in under and cracks the complete sod . Works well.

In my experience a staggered machine will shatter the soil better than an inline machine. if in damp conditions an in line machine will lift and lay the whole profile down giving little shatter and in the dry it can leave slabs. Staggered legs will give more shatter and a better flow, close spaced tines should only be used for shallow work.

 

[Toms820]

That was the impression I got from watching videos of different Sward lifters is that staggered legs are better for shattering effect and less likely to just lift and relay the sod with no actual good being done to the ground.

 

[ploughman1963]

The only way you will tell if either is doing any good is to get a spade and dig. For my money, the Erth does plenty of fracturing without as much surface disturbance as the staggered legs of the Sumo.
The Sumo is a very well built machine, stronger than the Erth - but our Erth has done 6 years of contracting and has never had the welder on it yet so I am happy its strong enough

 

[Toms820]

Wearing metal and style for Min Disturbance subsoiling
Is a mine field . The above point from APM To suit Sumo Lds is very cost effective with tungsten on the point wing and shin.
The profilab/ Mischel style does a very good job but expensive to run.
Metcalf Ng and Tilso expensive, but both offer different wing widths to suit different leg spacing and working depths.

Do you have the price of the APM point to suit the sumo to hand I tried emailing the company asking for prices on Monday but never received a reply.