Tom Heap

[ollie989898]

Countryfile is a disgrace. The other program about real life farmers with no fakey presenters was absolutely ace. Just real life honest people showing the public the gritty of it, not just a fleet of shiny equipment and fudging about with a sponsored truck hauling a few ponies about all day. And oh look, got 3 TB reactors in his herd of 7 beef cows. Morons the lot of them.

 

[Cheesehead]

The BBC might not have ads like the others but they still seem to have an ever increasing amount of waffle between programs. About the only thing I watch on it now is Death In Paradise and the occasional Pointless at the weekend, I once enjoyed DrWho but now find it patronising. Occasionally if someone is watching CF I might watch a bit but I rarely ever watch a whole episode as I usually find it grating. My parents used to watch Springwatch but now that grates on even my mum's nerves who loves her birds, they watch Song of Praise but seem to routinely complain about the BBC constantly changing the schedule and the time it is on. Out of the farming programs it's been the Farming Life, and both the Yorkshire Farm and Yorkshire Vet.

Edit And of course Born Mucky though I'm not sure how I forgot thay

 

[JSmith]

Or from different view point some would just say thatAdam is a tenant farmer doing his best with diversification to provide for his family and their future.

Fair play to him, I’m not sayin he shouldn’t take advantage of the opportunities that come his way, is his wife not a producer on the show or something?? I’m only saying that a prime time slot on a main channel with a good sized audience that has a farming slot in the middle of it with a knowledgable and likeable actual real life farmer presenting it could be used more to enlighten the public on the real life nitty gritty aspects of farming so as they might have a slight grasp on the real goings on! For example they could be in a different market every week if they wanted explaining why the live ring is important to us as a business or they could be TB testing where they’re taking forty or fifty cows each test and the place is infested with badgers or whatever, and then follow the cows to the abattoir while they blow her brains out an then cut a 7month old calf out of her!! I mean that might open a few eyes!!

 

[Clive]

Countryfile isn’t a farmIng program thankfully as how dull would that be !
it’s a countryside programme and as one of the highest rating shows on TV I reckon they must know what they are doing !

enjoy it for what it is, we should be grateful for the prime time window into our world and the connection that give.

I don’t think as farmers very many of us have a clue how far removed our world is from 99.999% of the population

 

[farmerm]

Fair play to him, I’m not sayin he shouldn’t take advantage of the opportunities that come his way, is his wife not a producer on the show or something?? I’m only saying that a prime time slot on a main channel with a good sized audience that has a farming slot in the middle of it with a knowledgable and likeable actual real life farmer presenting it could be used more to enlighten the public on the real life nitty gritty aspects of farming so as they might have a slight grasp on the real goings on! For example they could be in a different market every week if they wanted explaining why the live ring is important to us as a business or they could be TB testing where they’re taking forty or fifty cows each test and the place is infested with badgers or whatever, and then follow the cows to the abattoir while they blow her brains out an then cut a 7month old calf out of her!! I mean that might open a few eyes!!

Most of the population are very happy to remain ignorant to the details between daisy running round the sunny pasture and turning up in the McDonnald burger. They don't need to be shown the brains being blown out, they don't want to be turned vegan!

 

[Bury the Trash]

Fair play to him, I’m not sayin he shouldn’t take advantage of the opportunities that come his way, is his wife not a producer on the show or something?? I’m only saying that a prime time slot on a main channel with a good sized audience that has a farming slot in the middle of it with a knowledgable and likeable actual real life farmer presenting it could be used more to enlighten the public on the real life nitty gritty aspects of farming so as they might have a slight grasp on the real goings on! For example they could be in a different market every week if they wanted explaining why the live ring is important to us as a business or they could be TB testing where they’re taking forty or fifty cows each test and the place is infested with badgers or whatever, and then follow the cows to the abattoir while they blow her brains out an then cut a 7month old calf out of her!! I mean that might open a few eyes!!

yes and some things are best not broadcast as they will do more harm than good.

we all know the problems with it all but what you suggest wouldn't help one bit in aSunday evening show especially imo.


Its not far to be picking on Adam for it all either.

 

[ollie989898]

Countryfile isn’t a farmIng program thankfully as how dull would that be !
it’s a countryside programme and as one of the highest rating shows on TV I reckon they must know what they are doing !

enjoy it for what it is, we should be grateful for the prime time window into our world and the connection that give.

I don’t think as farmers very many of us have a clue how far removed our world is from 99.999% of the population

I've said this before, I don't care how big it's viewer numbers are, it's portrayal of the industry is absolute bullcarp. Any member of the public would conclude from watching that one can make a living as a full time farmer from 7 beef cattle, a bit of combining and spending all day driving around the country buying rare breed ponies. It's carp and it needs to stop. The farming program which featured actual farming families rather than wannabe rural celebs was far far better.

 

[Guiggs]

Its not countryfile that's the problem, neither is it Adam, Tom heap, the presenters, its not even Chris bloody packham or fecking Brian may or anybody else for that matter.
They are all entitled to their opinions as we all are..
The problem is the champagne socialist, far left management, NW London inhabitants whom most of you bankroll giving them all a platform to spew their doctrine!
Cancel your license,
F**k the BBC!

 

[Muck Spreader]

I've said this before, I don't care how big it's viewer numbers are, it's portrayal of the industry is absolute bullcarp. Any member of the public would conclude from watching that one can make a living as a full time farmer from 7 beef cattle, a bit of combining and spending all day driving around the country buying rare breed ponies. It's carp and it needs to stop. The farming program which featured actual farming families rather than wannabe rural celebs was far far better.

And the BBC supply you with "This Farming Life" which covers exactly that. The secret is in the name with Countryfile.

 

[pycoed]

itler was

The first and simplest thing, is animal rights, sadly many of the far right, such as Adolf Hitler and numerous others of the extreme right believe that we need to go back to a Petruvian golden age when men and animals lived in harmony.

I don't accept that: animal rights is a lefty hippy construct & has nothing to do with the far right. I also don't see how you can associate Hitler - a National SOCIALIST ( the clue's in the name) with the right - that is lazy pigeonholing.

 

[Bury the Trash]

And the BBC supply you with "This Farming Life" which covers exactly that. The secret is in the name with Countryfile.

or not tv but...

BBC Radio 4 - Farming Today

The latest news about food, farming and the countryside

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ollie989898]

And the BBC supply you with "This Farming Life" which covers exactly that. The secret is in the name with Countryfile.

I don't care what the name or focus of the programme is, my complaint is with how they portray farming. It's a totally false portrayal.

 

[Exfarmer]

itler was

I don't accept that: animal rights is a lefty hippy construct & has nothing to do with the far right. I also don't see how you can associate Hitler - a National SOCIALIST ( the clue's in the name) with the right - that is lazy pigeonholing.

Sorry, I confess and Hold my hands up , if you believe Hitler is not an Icon of the far right, fine, no problems, his great mate was Joseph Stalin, who as far a I know had no sympathies for socialism.

 

[Clive]

I do think the BBC should bring in sone fresh faces

the current line up hasn't changed much in years really ?

 

[Jackov Altraids]

I'm really surprised that Tom Heap and Adam Henson are being derided on here, *by farmers*.
You might not like what they say, or perhaps how they say it, but sometimes there are subjects that need to be discussed in the public eye that need 'balance' and for both sides to be heard.

I spend more time than I care debating 3rd rate 'journalism' over on the Guardian web site. Monbiot, Packham and the like, where overt "class warfare" is thinly dressed up as half baked 'environmentalism', these are the people who deserve our unswerving critical attention as their 'opinions' carry a lot of weight with a very vocal and militant minority.

Tom Heap and Adam Henson are 'public friendly' faces, their opinions are trusted by viewers, and although I don't always agree with them they are two of the best presenters in the UK media for discussing UK Ag in laymans terms, for the benefit of the 95% of viewers who aren't farmers.

As for John Craven, I've no idea how he's kept his job. Several times I've watched him play to the 'urban' audience with a snooty story designed to make farmers look like idiots.

Please don't compare Adam Henson with Tom 'the sh!t' Heap.
Adam is knowledgeable, enthusiastic and a great 'people person'.
Tom hasn't got any comprehension of what he is talking about half the time and on the rare occasion he has something of interest to say, he delivers it in such a soporific manner than most people must lose the will to live before he finishes.

 

[JP1]

I do think the BBC should bring in sone fresh faces

the current line up hasn't changed much in years really ?

They constructively dismissed Miriam O'Reilly

 

[DeeGee]

Sorry, I confess and Hold my hands up , if you believe Hitler is not an Icon of the far right, fine, no problems, his great mate was Joseph Stalin, who as far a I know had no sympathies for socialism.

Both were monsters. Hard to judge who was the more evil of the two. One was perceived as being a far right despot, the other as a champion of communism.
When extreme right wing views and those of the extreme left eventually meet full circle and head to head on the darkest side of society the result is always totalitarianism, the inevitable suppression of freedom of speech and the oppression of the general public.

 

[roscoe erf]

Countryside Alliance say BBC should drop outspoken Chris Packham

BBC boss Tim Davie should sack the Springwatch presenter (pictured) to 'follow through' with his call for impartiality online, Tim Bonner said.

www.dailymail.co.uk

BBC boss Tim Davie warns woke and opinionated 'you have no place here'

The BBC's new Director-General has warned staff who want to be opinionated columnists or woke online campaigners 'You should not be working here' in fiery first speech in charge

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[SteveHants]

It is the mouthpiece of whomever is in government...


So are the Tories a bunch of Lefties?

State owned broadcaster in "props up the state" shocker.

 

[pgk]

I heard that sales of vegan foods are down over 70% right across all supermarkets whilst red meat sales are up 20-30% with Aldi reporting better growth than than

Only Magnum Ice Cream left in my local shop was the vegan one.
Unfortunately the mark up on vegan foods is so huge, the supermarkets will still turn a penny even on this sort of collapse so we will continue to be bombarded with vegan promotions

M

Can you give me an example of anything on the BBC that could be construed as right wing? Because I've seen nothing since Tony Blair was elected.

Laura kuenssberg (apologies for spelling)