Towing vehicles

[Stej12]

Just wondering if I should swap my defender 90 for a better towing truck the 90 is wobbly when towing cattle trailer was thinking maybe buy a defender 110 utility or go for a pickup maybe Toyota or Mitsubishi any advice

 

[Farmer_Joe]

discovery 4

 

[Robt]

Shogun long wheel base , boring as hell, slow as hell, crap on fuel, dull, old, but they tow very well

 

[HarryB97]

I had a Defender 90 but wrote it off and now have a Discovery 4. The disco is in another league, quiet, smooth, air suspension to keep the truck level and plenty of power. I would have another defender 90 tomorrow but going back to a manual and a truck with so little power for towing would be a big step backwards.

 

[Dave W]

All modern pickups will be a significant step up from a 90. For a lump less money too

 

[Drillman]

All modern pickups will be a significant step up from a 90. For a lump less money too

I went from LR90/Disco 1 and 2 to Ford Ranger 3.2

The pickup is in a different league for towing so much more stable but is about 130 inch wheelbase compared to the defenders 92.9 and the discos100 inch which makes a big difference

pickup is a fair bit heavier as well which I think helps.

 

[Dave W]

I went from LR90/Disco 1 and 2 to Ford Ranger 3.2

The pickup is in a different league for towing so much more stable but is about 130 inch wheelbase compared to the defenders 92.9 and the discos100 inch which makes a big difference

pickup is a fair bit heavier as well which I think helps.

Don't forget though. If you go down the disco route you'll need about 7 in stock

 

[Drillman]

Don't forget though. If you go down the disco route you'll need about 7 in stock

Yes there is that, probably why The things are so expensive nowadays

Im assuming there a bit like gold bonds and will be released onto the market eventually (probably when head office realised how many of them there are in storage)

 

[HolzKopf]

discovery 4

+1

 

[Dave W]

Yes there is that, probably why The things are so expensive nowadays

Im assuming there a bit like gold bonds and will be released onto the market eventually (probably when head office realised how many of them there are in storage)

Released??? They're all keepers! Early stages of a museum

 

[Courier]

At least 50% of the towing experience is dependant on the trailer and it's load.

 

[dave mountain]

Amazon or LC200, D4 is also good for towing but will ruin you in other ways. Pickups arent all that good for towing, although they are definitely better than a defender.

 

[rusty]

I used to have a mk1 VW Touareg which was a great tow vehicle, certainly better than my current Navara NP300.
Front tyre wear and engine reliability became an issue though.

 

[Dave W]

Amazon or LC200, D4 is also good for towing but will ruin you in other ways. Pickups arent all that good for towing, although they are definitely better than a defender.

What's wrong with pick ups? I used to do 20000 miles a year towing with a dmax and can't fault it

 

[dave mountain]

Nothing wrong, but a 4.2/4.5 landcruiser or even a 3.2 shogun is far more boss of a heavy trailer for pulling, handling and stopping it than any pickup. no weight on the back axle, no permanent 4wd, tinny 4 pot engine, drum brakes instead of discs, cart springs instead of coils etc etc. also when i borrowed a 2017 dmax and hooked up 3 ton it used more diesel than my 1996 4.2 on the same job, despite the GTW being about a ton less.

 

[Dave W]

Nothing wrong, but a 4.2/4.5 landcruiser or even a 3.2 shogun is far more boss of a heavy trailer for pulling, handling and stopping it than any pickup. no weight on the back axle, no permanent 4wd, tinny 4 pot engine, drum brakes instead of discs, cart springs instead of coils etc etc. also when i borrowed a 2017 dmax and hooked up 3 ton it used more diesel than my 1996 4.2 on the same job, despite the GTW being about a ton less.

Ran a 3.2 shogun for a couple years. It was good but no better than dmax.
current tow vehicle is a 3l lwb iveco daily flat bed. I'd pick that any day over any 4x4. Never known any pull and handle so well

 

[dave mountain]

Amazon or LC200, D4 is also good for towing but will ruin

Ran a 3.2 shogun for a couple years. It was good but no better than dmax.
current tow vehicle is a 3l lwb iveco daily flat bed. I'd pick that any day over any 4x4. Never known any pull and handle so well

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You havent tried an LC200 then

Granted shogun isnt the best but at least it doesnt wheelspin everytime you try and pull away with a heavy trailer like the dmax did

Nice iveco though, id be tempted if i wasnt always dragging the trailers over questionable terrain for the last bit of the journey.

 

[Drillman]

Nothing wrong, but a 4.2/4.5 landcruiser or even a 3.2 shogun is far more boss of a heavy trailer for pulling, handling and stopping it than any pickup. no weight on the back axle, no permanent 4wd, tinny 4 pot engine, drum brakes instead of discs, cart springs instead of coils etc etc. also when i borrowed a 2017 dmax and hooked up 3 ton it used more diesel than my 1996 4.2 on the same job, despite the GTW being about a ton less.

Think we may have had this discussion before but having driven a lot of tow vehicles over the years i find the Ranger 3.2 to be very good. That’s pulling fully loaded cattle trailers as well so the load has a habit of moving at times. Leaf sprung rear axle way better than anything on coils as well I’ve found.

 

[multi power]

Ran a 3.2 shogun for a couple years. It was good but no better than dmax.
current tow vehicle is a 3l lwb iveco daily flat bed. I'd pick that any day over any 4x4. Never known any pull and handle so well

How much weight can you get on the truck ?

 

[Dave W]

How much weight can you get on the truck ?

1100kg payload