Renewal year and tempted to change from yellow to green. Half convinced myself that the output of a class Hybrid would be greater than that of a 6 walker machine (both on a 25ft cut). Have however been a loyal NH customer for many years with no negative feedback to report. Both extremely competitively priced with only £200/yr separating them. NH bringing a hybrid to the market in 3 seasons which does make me wonder, does anyone have feedback on these 2 machines? Good or bad.
Tucano 560 vs NH CX6.80
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Is a tucano 560 a hydrid? Thought it was a walker machine
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- East Sussex
Single rotor hybrid, and a bloody good one at that, lucky enough to get two days on one this year, loved it, got a walker tucano 430 at mo.
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- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
Difficult decision. I’ve no experience of the Claas but ever since that Hybrid system came out on the Tucano, I have thought it an absolutely brilliant “best of both worlds” idea.
The NH 6.80 combine is rated as a upper 20’s/30 tonnes per hour combine. What do Claas claim?
How important is top quality straw to you?
NH are bringing out their own version. It has been on field test this year with reports of low to mid 40’s tonnes/hour.
The idea of still using a conventional drum doing 90% of the separation is IMO the best way on fields where the crop yield and ripeness are not uniform. By still using that drum, it is the only way you can be sure that grain is hitting the full width of the sieves as evenly as possible, without constantly having to change rotor speed and rotor concave distances.
Clever idea - can’t understand why it wasn’t thought of years earlier!
The NH 6.80 combine is rated as a upper 20’s/30 tonnes per hour combine. What do Claas claim?
How important is top quality straw to you?
NH are bringing out their own version. It has been on field test this year with reports of low to mid 40’s tonnes/hour.
The idea of still using a conventional drum doing 90% of the separation is IMO the best way on fields where the crop yield and ripeness are not uniform. By still using that drum, it is the only way you can be sure that grain is hitting the full width of the sieves as evenly as possible, without constantly having to change rotor speed and rotor concave distances.
Clever idea - can’t understand why it wasn’t thought of years earlier!
Straw quality not really a priority more concerned with increasing outputs and Keeping the reliability that NH has provided us with. Coming from a 5 walker machine I was told that an extra walker and 3ft on the header would only give me another 5% output on the New Holland hence the Hybrid consideration. Price wise I can’t separate them and haven’t spent very much time in the hybrid, 30tonne/hr easily achievable apparently
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- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
What a conundrum!
Both are going to be good.
I have run a CX 6080 for 8 seasons and it has been incredibly reliable. No plans to change it.
Your 6.80 is going to have the advantage of the triple cascade fan system that will take it to 30ish t/hr.
But I’d be tempted by that Claas too!
Are Claas offering a tempting price to drag you away from NH?
If so, NH will try their best not to lose you if they know about it.
One thing else to consider before you make up your mind:
The 6.80 will have a 60” wide drum, i.e. 10” of drum per straw walker.
What width is the Claas?
If it is about 50”, Claas are getting the same capacity out of what would have been a 5 walker combine.
Which would you rather have, when in effect you are paying the same price for both?
Having said that, NH would use a 50” wide drum on their TF 42 and 44 combines, which had as good if not better capacity as the 60” drum, 6 walker TX 36, for very similar money. To my mind the TF was vastly superior.
We moved from a TX66 to a Tucano 480 2 harvests ago, and the baby Claas hybrid is an impressive bit of kit in terms of output and features.
The only problem with the new current Tucano 560 hybrid is that they have only been out for 2 harvests (580 was new for this year IIRC?) so there wont be any used for at least another year.
And god forbid they break: Jeez Oh, Claas know how to take the 'Mickey Bliss' with their parts. Anyone else would be ashamed, but instead they're utterly brazen about ripping the arse out of their 'loyal' customers. NH hybrid available in a few years you say...
The only problem with the new current Tucano 560 hybrid is that they have only been out for 2 harvests (580 was new for this year IIRC?) so there wont be any used for at least another year.
And god forbid they break: Jeez Oh, Claas know how to take the 'Mickey Bliss' with their parts. Anyone else would be ashamed, but instead they're utterly brazen about ripping the arse out of their 'loyal' customers. NH hybrid available in a few years you say...
New Holland matched the green price and then class put in a new machine at an ex demo price, very competitive pricing hence the conundrum
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- Lincolnshire
When you say a hybrid, do you mean they are going to make TF's again?
If you want capacity hybrid will give you it we always ran 6 walker combines but changed to narrow body lexion and it makes a mockery of the 6 walker with 3ft more cut when conditions are really dry the straw will shatter more but they can cut some crop in comparison
Fraserb
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- Scottish Borders
Any reason you don't want an Nh rotary. We have one and can get the straw pretty good out of it.
Price. It’s a big step up from a walker machine and I’m not in the market for a second hand machine.
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- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
Not sure. @fergie35 would know better than me. But at a guess, I'd say CX 8060 (not to be confused with the CX6080!) probably 30 - 35ish t/hr.
It is a completely different animal from the TX 66, which would have been 20-22 t/hr
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- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
I wish they would!
But their answer is their equivalent to the Tucano, which is on it's way in a year or two.
I reckoned the TF46/78 was about a 30t/hr machine. Their new hybrid will be IRO 40-45t/hr.
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- Lincolnshire
A CX 7... (5 walker) would be similar to a TX66
Robm 1959
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- West Sussex
Just done our first season with the 560.. no regrets ?
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- Lincolnshire
What is the comparison cost of going to the smallest CR? according to list price they are similar to 6 walker CX's
Not been quoted but I know that it doesn’t come close to the Tucano