Vaderstad Rapid 3m box drill price

[Stoosh]

Anyone know a ball park figure for a new one? Thanks.

 

[Boysground]

No idea on price but I doubt you will see one for next autumn from what I hear

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[T C]

Bought 1 a year ago, it was ordered as vaderstads demo machine but they sold it.
Full spec - central tyre press, system disc aggressive, grain and fert, ipad control.
Was over £60k! Should cost nothing to run for 3000ac.
Need 2% extra yield over 5yrs to pay for it. Will also use less P fertiliser.

 

[Chae1]

Bought 1 a year ago, it was ordered as vaderstads demo machine but they sold it.
Full spec - central tyre press, system disc aggressive, grain and fert, ipad control.
Was over £60k! Should cost nothing to run for 3000ac.
Need 2% extra yield over 5yrs to pay for it. Will also use less P fertiliser.

4m ex demo Spirit was 80k this autumn.

 

[MrNoo]

A friend enquired after one as a new replacement to his current one, they offered him £6k for his old one (really tidy) and quoted him £65k for a new one. He went on and bought a Claydon direct drill.
And another friend just paid £65k for a 2nd hand Misery drill. A lot of money to just put seed in the ground

 

[T C]

Agreed they are expensive but my P fertiliser bill is around 30k and it will sow 500k worth of crops.
The stakes are much higher than 2 years ago.
I dropped from a 4m and cut 60hp off the drilling tractor. New drill and 1300hr second hand 175hp tractor cost same as new (ex stock) 215 JD.

 

[MrNoo]

Agreed they are expensive but my P fertiliser bill is around 30k and it will sow 500k worth of crops.
The stakes are much higher than 2 years ago.
I dropped from a 4m and cut 60hp off the drilling tractor. New drill and 1300hr second hand 175hp tractor cost same as new (ex stock) 215 JD.

Agreed, they are an excellent drill, have one myself, paid 14k for it years ago and then went through it last year, which cost a further £4.5k. I would have bought my friends one if I hadn't have done mine up.

 

[Boysground]

Agreed they are expensive but my P fertiliser bill is around 30k and it will sow 500k worth of crops.
The stakes are much higher than 2 years ago.
I dropped from a 4m and cut 60hp off the drilling tractor. New drill and 1300hr second hand 175hp tractor cost same as new (ex stock) 215 JD.

Why is it dropping your P use?

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[Martyn]

I dont understand why more farmers don't put them through a workshop and chuck £5-10k at them rather than replace. All the parts are easily available. Very simple drills, we do something to ours most years.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Agreed they are expensive but my P fertiliser bill is around 30k and it will sow 500k worth of crops.
The stakes are much higher than 2 years ago.
I dropped from a 4m and cut 60hp off the drilling tractor. New drill and 1300hr second hand 175hp tractor cost same as new (ex stock) 215 JD.

I'm surprised you were happy to drop down for a 3m from a 4m though - I know hp requirement is less but the turning bores the hell out of me. 4m would be about 40% faster at least surely?

 

[SilliamWhale]

I dont understand why more farmers don't put them through a workshop and chuck £5-10k at them rather than replace. All the parts are easily available. Very simple drills, we do something to ours most years.

I have a 30 year old JD 750 box drill. Just had a major rebuild which cost me about 6-7k but its a good as any new one.

 

[T C]

I'm surprised you were happy to drop down for a 3m from a 4m though - I know hp requirement is less but the turning bores the hell out of me. 4m would be about 40% faster at least surely?

Output has dropped no doubt but there is not many 4m g&f vaderstads - only box drills which have poor residuals in UK.
As a 1 man band hopper capacity has the biggest influence on output, putting 1.5t of seed and 600kg of fert means at least 6Ha before refilling.
Can still get 25Ha in a good day, 20Ha more usual with other jobs to do.

 

[Chae1]

Big hoppers are fine till you get stuck.

Especially with a trailed drill.

 

[T C]

Why is it dropping your P use?

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By placing P I am happy to drop 30% of applied.
With the dry springs we are getting we could see exactly where the fert stopped on spring barley. If it had been applied post drilling then it would not have been available when the crop needs it. The time taken to apply it pre drilling drilled 1 field and P is not mobile in the soil so less effective.
Recent research by SAC suggests our heavier soils need a higher level of P than we have be using.

 

[Boysground]

I'm surprised you were happy to drop down for a 3m from a 4m though - I know hp requirement is less but the turning bores the hell out of me. 4m would be about 40% faster at least surely?

I started with a 3m, done the last 10 years with a 4m and have just bought a tidy 6m. Mostly because of its condition, if I could have found a 4m as good I may have bought that. I am looking forward to driving a little slower though

My record with the 3m was 70ac of wheat in a day but that was really pushing it.

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[SilliamWhale]

I started with a 3m, done the last 10 years with a 4m and have just bought a tidy 6m. Mostly because of its condition, if I could have found a 4m as good I may have bought that. I am looking forward to driving a little slower though

My record with the 3m was 70ac of wheat in a day but that was really pushing it.

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How did you do your turns with a 3m drill? I'm usually 8 times round the headland and then just enough for a round turn but its surprising what time it takes compared to a mounted would. Usually about 4 acres an hour with me but awkard fields/ filling up etc.

I find it tedious. To be fair its the only major fieldwork to do as everything is no till but a big field and a 3m drill always feels a bit mammoth.

 

[Lazy Sod]

I started with a 3m, done the last 10 years with a 4m and have just bought a tidy 6m. Mostly because of its condition, if I could have found a 4m as good I may have bought that. I am looking forward to driving a little slower though

What hp will it need to pull the 6m drill up your steep slopes along the Chitterne road, @Boysground?

 

[warksfarmer]

Bought 1 a year ago, it was ordered as vaderstads demo machine but they sold it.
Full spec - central tyre press, system disc aggressive, grain and fert, ipad control.
Was over £60k! Should cost nothing to run for 3000ac.
Need 2% extra yield over 5yrs to pay for it. Will also use less P fertiliser.

Jesus Christ . 3m Triton with front or rear mounted hopper is half the price if not a bit more. You could run 1.5t of seed in the rear and 1.5t if fert in the front if you really wanted.

 

[Chae1]

Jesus Christ . 3m Triton with front or rear mounted hopper is half the price if not a bit more. You could run 1.5t of seed in the rear and 1.5t if fert in the front if you really wanted.

Thought the Triton guy had gone quiet!

Are you taking over?

 

[warksfarmer]

Thought the Triton guy had gone quiet!

Are you taking over?

what. I don’t sell triton drills.