What Price Per Acre For Mowing Grass On PP

As above but this is on tired PP which has some thistles. Can put fertilizer on but amounts only around 30 units to the acre. The land is probably short of lime so response to fertilizer may not be great. Seventy acres in total but in ten small fields. Land is completely bare at present.
 
How many sheep/acre will it hold for the year? Base that x £20-25. How close is it etc etc
Not sure that is a good calculation to use as it will keep over 200 sheep in the summer and a hundred in the winter if it doesn't get too wet. It will eventually grow a hay crop with a little fertilizer but won't want another drought like last year.
If Hay is as expensive this year and it could yield say 6 round bales to the acre or 400 total then it must be worth more than for free!!
 

digger64

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As above but this is on tired PP which has some thistles. Can put fertilizer on but amounts only around 30 units to the acre. The land is probably short of lime so response to fertilizer may not be great. Seventy acres in total but in ten small fields. Land is completely bare at present.
price it per bale got , more inputs - more bales , soon makes them realise the economic costs versus the income of the restrictive schemes .
 
price it per bale got , more inputs - more bales , soon makes them realise the economic costs versus the income of the restrictive schemes .
Yes very good suggestion but how do you agree a per bale value in this situation?
What would the per acre cost of getting the hay into round bales hoping for reasonable weather conditions and so applying the fertilizer, mowing, turning twice, rowing up and baling?
Mowing at £14.00 per acre.
Tedding x 2 at £8.00
Raking at £8.00
Fertilizer spreading at £5.00
Fertilizer at £14.00 (compound)
Baling at 5 to the acre £20.00
My fag packet calculation makes this almost £80.00 per acre at 5 round bales to the acre.
So at £20.00 per bale on the field this makes the ground worth £20.00 an acre?

Bearing in mind I have to transport the bales 10 miles, is my £20 value on the field too high?

Or do the experts disagree?
 
Bearing in mind I have to transport the bales 10 miles, is my £20 value on the field too high?

Or do the experts disagree?

Work the other way. How much value can you add to what the costs of taking this on are.
Your figures above (£80 per acre) for 70 acres have risk cost of £5600 plus whatever rent you decide to pay, so at £20 per acre takes total cost to £7000. What return would you expect on that £7000. How many days work would it take, and at what cost in time to your core business.

My view, leave it well alone and look for something which is closer, easier and not so risky to obtain a decent profit margin.
 
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Yes very good suggestion but how do you agree a per bale value in this situation?
What would the per acre cost of getting the hay into round bales hoping for reasonable weather conditions and so applying the fertilizer, mowing, turning twice, rowing up and baling?
Mowing at £14.00 per acre.
Tedding x 2 at £8.00
Raking at £8.00
Fertilizer spreading at £5.00
Fertilizer at £14.00 (compound)
Baling at 5 to the acre £20.00
My fag packet calculation makes this almost £80.00 per acre at 5 round bales to the acre.
So at £20.00 per bale on the field this makes the ground worth £20.00 an acre?

Bearing in mind I have to transport the bales 10 miles, is my £20 value on the field too high?

Or do the experts disagree?
Might do better putting a tonne of lime on instead of the fert.
 

digger64

Member
Yes very good suggestion but how do you agree a per bale value in this situation?
What would the per acre cost of getting the hay into round bales hoping for reasonable weather conditions and so applying the fertilizer, mowing, turning twice, rowing up and baling?
Mowing at £14.00 per acre.
Tedding x 2 at £8.00
Raking at £8.00
Fertilizer spreading at £5.00
Fertilizer at £14.00 (compound)
Baling at 5 to the acre £20.00
My fag packet calculation makes this almost £80.00 per acre at 5 round bales to the acre.
So at £20.00 per bale on the field this makes the ground worth £20.00 an acre?

Bearing in mind I have to transport the bales 10 miles, is my £20 value on the field too high?

Or do the experts disagree?
Only you can decide, but dont think you are far out in your way of budgeting , you could cost a potential normal crop then divide per bale plus the extra work costs of a lower yield per ton of dm , to get a value to you per bale .
I never have been able to see how getting a payment that effectively shuts doors,creates obligations ,devalues the asset value and reduces output by say 65% is attractive to anyone really , but I thought
you personally in previous posts historically , liked this type of environment / payment / income
scenario operate in TBH .
Alot seem to see it as money for old rope though and seem to want head in that direction .
 

AGCO reports sales increase of 43.5% compared to 2020 figures

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The tractor manufacturer AGCO, which consists of brands such as Challenger, Fendt, GSI, Massey Ferguson and Valtra, reported its results for the second quarter ending June 30, 2021.

Net sales for the second quarter were approximately $2.9 billion, an increase of approximately 43.5% compared to the second quarter of 2020.

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Reported net income was $3.73/share for the second quarter of 2021, and adjusted...
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