Wrapping bales query

[d-wales]

Will be interested to see what round bale silage will be worth in the winter, last spring I had to pay £25 bale cause I was short, would be the norm now with prices as they are. Just had invoice for 2 pallets of wrap which is £6k . Crazy

I would say £25 is a good price to buy at. As long as its average stuff.

My costs will be about £25 to make a bale this year, half tempted to sell more standing grass and buy bales back in

 

[RhysT]

We buy and sell a lot of bales yearly and make around 1400 round haylage ourselves to use and sell. By the end of this season we’ll have sold approx 2400 round haylage in a year. Think our costs are about £35 a bale to make it. One of my suppliers has asked me £40 to buy them from him. He’s got 450 bales for us! They’ll be bloody expensive by the time we’ve delivered them back out.

 

[Wellytrack]

It’s costing 40 a ton to grow it and get it to the pit so understandable it would take 35 a bale.

 

[James]

I would say £25 is a good price to buy at. As long as its average stuff.

My costs will be about £25 to make a bale this year, half tempted to sell more standing grass and buy bales back in

Buying silage bales is a lottery unless you know what you're getting.

 

[James]

I just heard yesterday that 750 X 1500 wrap is £80+ a roll 20 bales per roll is £4+ per bale

My wrap is working out at £3.62/bale for 6 layers

 

[M-J-G]

Most contractors here are quoting around £9.50 £10.50 for a double wrapped 4x4 bale ...

Double wrapped?
Is that 8 layers? Sounds excessive

 

[johnspeehs]

Double wrapped?
Is that 8 layers? Sounds excessive

no sorry its just local lingo, its 6 layers.

 

[Single Suckler]

We buy and sell a lot of bales yearly and make around 1400 round haylage ourselves to use and sell. By the end of this season we’ll have sold approx 2400 round haylage in a year. Think our costs are about £35 a bale to make it. One of my suppliers has asked me £40 to buy them from him. He’s got 450 bales for us! They’ll be bloody expensive by the time we’ve delivered them back out.

I reckon we are up around £35 to £36 per bale, thats before we patch or re-wrap anything that gets damaged. Definitely going to attend a few fodder sales this winter to see if there is any decent product for sale as if it can be bought and paid for and drawn in as we need to feed it straight off the trailer, saves a lot of handling and energy. Decent yield this year so far, but costs are through the roof, time to work smart not hard !

 

[Wellytrack]

Have heard it’s about 10 for 4 layers and 11.50 for 6. Chopped bale. Also have heard of it over 12.

 

[M-J-G]

I’ve just paid £12 here
6 layers film on film and chopped, nice bales though!

He's in NI though, there's a contractor every few miles over there, many of whom are so terrified of spending an evening in the house that they'll do a tenner's worth of work for a fiver.

 

[RhysT]

I reckon we are up around £35 to £36 per bale, thats before we patch or re-wrap anything that gets damaged. Definitely going to attend a few fodder sales this winter to see if there is any decent product for sale as if it can be bought and paid for and drawn in as we need to feed it straight off the trailer, saves a lot of handling and energy. Decent yield this year so far, but costs are through the roof, time to work smart not hard !

Absolutely, I’ve spoken to most of my suppliers about prices and their all thinking about the same sort of figures. Let’s hope my customers are prepared to pay big money for bales, and that my competitors aren’t stupid enough to sell cheap bales!

 

[Wellytrack]

Taking £1 a bale just in diesel alone now..

 

[Fendt516profi]

Taking £1 a bale just in diesel alone now..

What you using? I've just been 3 mile down road and done 109 used 43 litres from leaving shed to parking back in shed. 37 litres while in field with PTO going

 

[Wellytrack]

What you using? I've just been 3 mile down road and done 109 used 43 litres from leaving shed to parking back in shed. 37 litres while in field with PTO going

MF with SISU. No way I could get near that. Its taking 25 litres per hour at 1.21 per litre. Add in 8 miles of travel their and back

 

[RhysT]

Contractor told me the other day that he typically uses 1l of diesel to produce 2 bales with a fusion.

baled a block last week of unfertilised light crop and it worked out at 1l a bale!

 

[wdah/him]

I'm doing about 2 bales a litre here with an old 8400 valmet and mc hale 5500. That's light crops heavy crops hills etc averaged over the last 800ish bales, all travel vel included. Have done a bit with a mxm case 140 but not measured it as valmet is main baling tractor and case is for mowing.

More I notice is valmet is using about 11 litres an hour average no matter the bale crop, wrapping tractor about 6 litres.

 

[James]

Contractor told me the other day that he typically uses 1l of diesel to produce 2 bales with a fusion.

baled a block last week of unfertilised light crop and it worked out at 1l a bale!

I'm using 0.55l per bale at the moment in heavy 30ft rows. Travelling included in a mf 7719S and fusion. Knives could do with a sharpen probably.

 

[d williams]

I'm doing about 2 bales a litre here with an old 8400 valmet and mc hale 5500. That's light crops heavy crops hills etc averaged over the last 800ish bales, all travel vel included. Have done a bit with a mxm case 140 but not measured it as valmet is main baling tractor and case is for mowing.

More I notice is valmet is using about 11 litres an hour average no matter the bale crop, wrapping tractor about 6 litres.

11lt hr not a lot hope your doing more then 5.5 bales a hour be a long day otherwise

 

[wdah/him]

11lt hr not a lot hope your doing more then 5.5 bales a hour be a long day otherwise

meant over all work it has done from I started recording this spring, power harrowing was 12.5 litres an hour for example. Very badly explained above but i prefer to work out average for basing a price on that includes travel fuel.

Last monday was 142 litres, 14 hrs 212 bales. 115 were silage crop, 51 was past cattle 8 acres 2.5 hours work 5 separate fields, 24 was from past cattle hayledge moss meadow grass stuff and 22 that was heavy 1st cut baled when raining. Was a lot of road travel between these farmers and a bit of criss crossing myself as some was only booked that day ahead of rain so fitted into the bottom of the list.

 

[d williams]

meant over all work it has done from I started recording this spring, power harrowing was 12.5 litres an hour for example.

Last monday was 142 litres, 14 hrs 212 bales. 115 were silage crop, 51 was past cattle 8 acres 2.5 hours work 5 separate fields, 24 was from past cattle hayledge moss meadow grass stuff and 22 that was heavy 1st cut baled when raining. Was a lot of road travel between these farmers and a bit of criss crossing myself as some was only booked that day ahead of rain so fitted into the bottom of the list.

That’s still a very good average per hour
Is it a eco modal ??