how long before we're all organic?

farmerm

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Shropshire
Inputs you said, not fixed costs.
50% yield at 100% premium is fine, with eventhe same costs.
My point is fixed costs have to be considered, lower yields in a low input system means the burden of fixed costs are spread across fewer tonnes of product. Without fungicides and fert it is not only yield that is hit but also quality, what buyer wants low bushel weight grain if they can import better quality from overseas.
 

egbert

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Livestock Farmer
I have seen topsoil 3ft under clay, obviously pre ice age or pre tsunami.
Found a peat bog 3ft under clay as well.
When the soil was bare after the glaciers disappeared, the erosion must have been incredible

I've had to ask the scientists i sit opposite.
Hereabouts we weren't under the (last) glacier/ice cap...but the conditions were so extreme that most of everything thus exposed was lost.
 

glasshouse

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lothians
My point is fixed costs have to be considered, lower yields in a low input system means the burden of fixed costs are spread across fewer tonnes of product. Without fungicides and fert it is not only yield that is hit but also quality, what buyer wants low bushel weight grain if they can import better quality from overseas.
Never had a quality issue with organic grain either
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
Is organic grain subject to the same rigorous standards as conventional grain?
No, there is a lot of leeway.
I was loading org feed barley one day when i hit a warmspot, so i called the merchant who said there would be a claim but he wouldnt say how much .
I said i wasnt loading any more till i had a firm amount for the claim, as i could easily run it through the drier.
Then the phone rings, its the mill.
He says load it up, there will be no claim , we are desperate for it and we will be wetting it anyway to go straight into the cuber.
 

Farmer Roy

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The Myth of Fertilizer
Home / Blog / The Myth of Fertilizer
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We’re told fertilizers are simple; when a crop grows, it draws nutrients from the soil, these nutrients are then removed when you harvest a crop or sell the milk from your goat or take steers to the sales. At least that’s what has been taught to producers and agronomists since Liebig first did his NPK plant test in the 19th century.
Certainly, there is ample evidence for this in the field. Without fertilizer many hay producers see yields drop, and bare soil increase every year; dairy farmers produce less milk; and ranchers see reduced carrying capacities. It all makes logical sense. Doesn’t it?Clean calculations bring us a sense of security, something we can control and give people peace of mind. And these calculations stand true in conventional agriculture, 40 kg of P is removed by crops, so 40 kg must be replaced. An agronomist can predict yield based on an addition of 200kg of N – that’s as long as being outside doesn’t intervene with drought, hail, insects or disease. Many credit NPK fertilizers for the great leaps forward from the Green Revolution last century. However, that’s not the whole story, yield responses were due to several factors including irrigation, new cultivars, machinery and access to credit. Over 70% of new high yielding varieties of rice and wheat were bred enabling global yields to double.The benefits to producers have been a mixed bag, as these growing methods demand more investment into infrastructure, machinery and land. Over time input prices rose, and the return on products which now flooded markets, dropped. Many food producers are no more profitable per acre than they were 100 years ago. As a result, many producers had to “get big or go home”, and their kids left to the cities. In the US over 73% of smaller rural communities are shrinking as more people leave than arrive, a pattern mirrored across the developed world. Debt and stress are an everyday occurrence for many working on the land.



I recently presented to 30 ‘conventional’ cropping operators. One topic raised was, “who wants to see their kids take over the farm?” The resounding response was…a long silence. Then into the void a farmer spoke up, “I’m sick of this stress, of the debt, and the increasing inputs. Why would I want to hand this over to my kids?” Times like these make me reflect on the profound positive difference regenerative land systems can make in people’s lives. We’re not just talking soil, we’re talking about a revolution that impacts on every aspect of rural life. And its time is now.

If you put all of these pieces together, the Green Revolution has not delivered on its promises to producers. It is however delivering for the banks, supply and chemical companies; they come out laughing whichever way the dice land. The FAO (Food and Agriculture Organisation) is certain that modern farming has increased the risks for food producers, with market volatility and increasing climactic unpredictability. And farming is a risky business. Nature is fickle mistress; as all who work on the land know. How to mitigate risk is the greatest challenge for producers today.

I once had the privilege to hear a powerful presentation by soil scientist Dr Daniel Hillel. In 2012 he received the World Food Prize for developing a method termed “micro-irrigation agriculture” which increases water efficiencies in arid climates. He shared his story of camping with Bedouin in the Arab desert, he overheard an elder asking his students what 1+1 equals. Their answers were more varied than the stock standard “2” that western children are raised to answer. One child replied thoughtfully; “well, if it’s one nanny goat and one billy, then 1 plus 1 could be 3 or 4”.

When working with biological systems, 1+1 rarely equals 2. We often see surprising results as soil systems function again, as they flocculate (open-up), roots penetrate deeper, nutrient cycles turn and the carbon buffer builds.

There are multiple factors involved in building topsoil, one driver happens from the top down, with biological activity, and the other happens bottom-up through chemical and microbial mineralization. These soil building processes can dramatically speed up, making previously unavailable ‘locked-up’, raw mineral materials available to crops. One NZ high country station we’ve worked with saw the equivalent lifts of 1500 kg/Ha (1300 lb/Ac) in calcium in just one year across treated areas on the farm. That’s with no additions of calcium. Dr David Johnson (NMSU), Col Seis, the Haggerty’s, Gabe Brown (and many others) are measuring plant-available nutrient increases from 200 to over 1000% higher, just through stimulating this microbial mineralization process. It is how soils are meant to function; all without the need for external inputs. Consider, did a fertilizer truck follow the bison around?

I’m not saying the natural cycles are closed however, they not. We live in an interconnected world. The global P cycle is driven by organic inputs from animals like birds, bears, buffalo and wind. In 2015 NASA discovered that the Sahara was delivering phosphate dust to the Amazon, at about the same rate it was losing from erosion; around 22,000 T of the stuff every year. In many regions collapses in biodiversity are leading to catastrophic declines in ecosystem health. New Zealand forests for instance, once dependent upon regular seabird guano, are now hungry for P and diseases are running rampant. Bears in North America were significant contributors of nutrients, including N and P from their rich salmon diets, apparently yes, they do poo in the woods.

No man, or woman, is an island. Encouraging biodiversity, brings increased nutrients from outside the farm gate. A recent study in Nature concluded that seabirds are full of crap (at least that’s how I interpreted the papers title), with excrement making a global contribution to over 1.3 billion pounds of N and 218 million pounds of P. With birds and insects in our agricultural lands in rapid decline, their losses are having a broader impact on nutrient cycling. Insects are the “nitrogen thieves” in any ecosystem and when they poop and die they may be contributing as much as 40kg / N/ Ha! In an organic form readily available when plants need it. Unfortunately scientists are estimating we’re in the middle of a catastrophic insect extinction event, how much potential N have you lost or gained by encouraging insect diversity?

Our modern practices which create monocultural deserts are putting the costs back onto farmers, society and the wider environment. It’s not a lack of fertilizer that drives profit and resilience, it’s diversity. Diversity which is enhanced by diverse microbial communities, plant rooting systems, insects, birds, livestock and diverse crops. How can you increase the diversity above and below-ground? It’s well overtime for use to step away from 19th century extractive thinking into the 21st century of regeneration.

Written by: Nicole Masters 14th February 2019
Image by:Kim Deans, Linnburn Station
 

graham99

Member
It certainly appears, in almost every way, to be opposite to down here.

If you farm like that, you basically end up evicting yourself within a generation, or are forced to enter the dizzy loop of expansion with money you may or may not have... it's worrying in many ways: firstly it's built on the premise that the land you own will continually increase in value, and secondly that the arse doesn't drop out of the commodity (or financial) markets - either of (both of which) are a matter of time, although nobody wants to see it happen.

It was quite visible in our dairy industry when cows suddenly dropped in value a couple of years back, the sharemilker's equity dropped below the threshold for their loans and it forced a scrabble - pretty minor by comparison to borrowing against overvalued land?

Again as you rightly point out, it wasn't purely subsidies that did that, you have ag policies, tax policies etc that haven't ever helped the man on the land as much as the laird

I'd love to see a decent ag revolution in Great Britain, in my lifetime, let the barstewards eat cake
you do know they are farming ,the same endless cap gains we are .
and that is just not farming.
i have always wanted cap gains gone.
i helped a lot of farmers pull up the ladder on the next gen.
and it today with eagle eyed hind sight ,i see what i helped cause.
one thing i know for fact, big business don't care
 

egbert

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Livestock Farmer
The Myth of Fertilizer
Home / Blog / The Myth of Fertilizer
heartleaf.jpg

We’re told fertilizers are simple; when a crop grows, it draws nutrients from the soil, these nutrients are then removed when you harvest a crop or sell the milk from your goat or take steers to the sales. At least that’s what has been taught to producers and agronomists since Liebig first did his NPK plant test in the 19th century.
Certainly, there is ample evidence for this in the field. Without fertilizer many hay producers see yields drop, and bare soil increase every year; dairy farmers produce less milk; and ranchers see reduced carrying capacities. It all makes logical sense. Doesn’t it?Clean calculations bring us a sense of security, something we can control and give people peace of mind. And these calculations stand true in conventional agriculture, 40 kg of P is removed by crops, so 40 kg must be replaced. An agronomist can predict yield based on an addition of 200kg of N – that’s as long as being outside doesn’t intervene with drought, hail, insects or disease. Many credit NPK fertilizers for the great leaps forward from the Green Revolution last century. However, that’s not the whole story, yield responses were due to several factors including irrigation, new cultivars, machinery and access to credit. Over 70% of new high yielding varieties of rice and wheat were bred enabling global yields to double.The benefits to producers have been a mixed bag, as these growing methods demand more investment into infrastructure, machinery and land. Over time input prices rose, and the return on products which now flooded markets, dropped. Many food producers are no more profitable per acre than they were 100 years ago. As a result, many producers had to “get big or go home”, and their kids left to the cities. In the US over 73% of smaller rural communities are shrinking as more people leave than arrive, a pattern mirrored across the developed world. Debt and stress are an everyday occurrence for many working on the land.



I recently presented to 30 ‘conventional’ cropping operators. One topic raised was, “who wants to see their kids take over the farm?” The resounding response was…a long silence. Then into the void a farmer spoke up, “I’m sick of this stress, of the debt, and the increasing inputs. Why would I want to hand this over to my kids?” Times like these make me reflect on the profound positive difference regenerative land systems can make in people’s lives. We’re not just talking soil, we’re talking about a revolution that impacts on every aspect of rural life. And its time is now.

If you put all of these pieces together, the Green Revolution has not delivered on its promises to producers. It is however delivering for the banks, supply and chemical companies; they come out laughing whichever way the dice land. The FAO (Food and Agriculture Organisation) is certain that modern farming has increased the risks for food producers, with market volatility and increasing climactic unpredictability. And farming is a risky business. Nature is fickle mistress; as all who work on the land know. How to mitigate risk is the greatest challenge for producers today.

I once had the privilege to hear a powerful presentation by soil scientist Dr Daniel Hillel. In 2012 he received the World Food Prize for developing a method termed “micro-irrigation agriculture” which increases water efficiencies in arid climates. He shared his story of camping with Bedouin in the Arab desert, he overheard an elder asking his students what 1+1 equals. Their answers were more varied than the stock standard “2” that western children are raised to answer. One child replied thoughtfully; “well, if it’s one nanny goat and one billy, then 1 plus 1 could be 3 or 4”.

When working with biological systems, 1+1 rarely equals 2. We often see surprising results as soil systems function again, as they flocculate (open-up), roots penetrate deeper, nutrient cycles turn and the carbon buffer builds.

There are multiple factors involved in building topsoil, one driver happens from the top down, with biological activity, and the other happens bottom-up through chemical and microbial mineralization. These soil building processes can dramatically speed up, making previously unavailable ‘locked-up’, raw mineral materials available to crops. One NZ high country station we’ve worked with saw the equivalent lifts of 1500 kg/Ha (1300 lb/Ac) in calcium in just one year across treated areas on the farm. That’s with no additions of calcium. Dr David Johnson (NMSU), Col Seis, the Haggerty’s, Gabe Brown (and many others) are measuring plant-available nutrient increases from 200 to over 1000% higher, just through stimulating this microbial mineralization process. It is how soils are meant to function; all without the need for external inputs. Consider, did a fertilizer truck follow the bison around?

I’m not saying the natural cycles are closed however, they not. We live in an interconnected world. The global P cycle is driven by organic inputs from animals like birds, bears, buffalo and wind. In 2015 NASA discovered that the Sahara was delivering phosphate dust to the Amazon, at about the same rate it was losing from erosion; around 22,000 T of the stuff every year. In many regions collapses in biodiversity are leading to catastrophic declines in ecosystem health. New Zealand forests for instance, once dependent upon regular seabird guano, are now hungry for P and diseases are running rampant. Bears in North America were significant contributors of nutrients, including N and P from their rich salmon diets, apparently yes, they do poo in the woods.

No man, or woman, is an island. Encouraging biodiversity, brings increased nutrients from outside the farm gate. A recent study in Nature concluded that seabirds are full of crap (at least that’s how I interpreted the papers title), with excrement making a global contribution to over 1.3 billion pounds of N and 218 million pounds of P. With birds and insects in our agricultural lands in rapid decline, their losses are having a broader impact on nutrient cycling. Insects are the “nitrogen thieves” in any ecosystem and when they poop and die they may be contributing as much as 40kg / N/ Ha! In an organic form readily available when plants need it. Unfortunately scientists are estimating we’re in the middle of a catastrophic insect extinction event, how much potential N have you lost or gained by encouraging insect diversity?

Our modern practices which create monocultural deserts are putting the costs back onto farmers, society and the wider environment. It’s not a lack of fertilizer that drives profit and resilience, it’s diversity. Diversity which is enhanced by diverse microbial communities, plant rooting systems, insects, birds, livestock and diverse crops. How can you increase the diversity above and below-ground? It’s well overtime for use to step away from 19th century extractive thinking into the 21st century of regeneration.

Written by: Nicole Masters 14th February 2019
Image by:Kim Deans, Linnburn Station


Hmm.
Yes, maybe.
The global element of the cycle is seldom seen, and less understood.
The Pacific NW 'salmon trees' are a good example, if for the wrong reason.
Taken as a snapshot, the soil in those valleys should be 20-30' thick, more maybe. But it isn't.
I couldn't find any that was much different to what i see around me at home. The rocks still poke through in some old growth i meandered.
Clearly it is being taken somewhere else, by....well, something.

A snippet I read backalong suggested that ocean systems are still missing the bonanza of both whale fall (dead whales ending up on the bottom -sometimes the very deep and dark bottom), and also the huge amount of whale poop still absent. And the jury is now out as to whether the population can go back, seeing as we've effed up so much of the oceans contents.

Back to your soils, I mow 2-3 blocks which haven't been 'fed' for decades...many decades. Yields stabilise around 4-6 round bales per acre.
The value of the fodder is different, as although it doesn't have much of a score in what is generally measured, and some looks more like baled sticks, the cattle just about lick the feeders clean.
I give the cattle no mineral supplement at all, but hardly ever see cal/mag problems....and suspect it is connected.

In the end -my end anyway- I'll continue to measure the cost of bagged NPK against the cost of bought in bales, and both wieghed against the potential value of keeping that extra cow.
With cows not paying per se, I don't buy much fert.
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Hmm.
Yes, maybe.
The global element of the cycle is seldom seen, and less understood.
The Pacific NW 'salmon trees' are a good example, if for the wrong reason.
Taken as a snapshot, the soil in those valleys should be 20-30' thick, more maybe. But it isn't.
I couldn't find any that was much different to what i see around me at home. The rocks still poke through in some old growth i meandered.
Clearly it is being taken somewhere else, by....well, something.

A snippet I read backalong suggested that ocean systems are still missing the bonanza of both whale fall (dead whales ending up on the bottom -sometimes the very deep and dark bottom), and also the huge amount of whale poop still absent. And the jury is now out as to whether the population can go back, seeing as we've effed up so much of the oceans contents.

Back to your soils, I mow 2-3 blocks which haven't been 'fed' for decades...many decades. Yields stabilise around 4-6 round bales per acre.
The value of the fodder is different, as although it doesn't have much of a score in what is generally measured, and some looks more like baled sticks, the cattle just about lick the feeders clean.
I give the cattle no mineral supplement at all, but hardly ever see cal/mag problems....and suspect it is connected.

In the end -my end anyway- I'll continue to measure the cost of bagged NPK against the cost of bought in bales, and both wieghed against the potential value of keeping that extra cow.
With cows not paying per se, I don't buy much fert.
Are brought in bales relatively cheaper fertility than the NPK? It is an interesting mental exercise when you really look.

What you're saying about the slow-grown grass the stock prefer is really quite a relevant thing to bring up, and neatly captures what we are aiming to do with our carbon grazing.
Rather than grow heaps of sugary crap to feed our cattle, we want it to be full of minerals and fibre, and the health and contentment goes to show.
Similarly, most wealthy nations have had health epidemics ever since we learned how to "grow two blades of grass where one grew before" - we are aiming to grow one blade, and leave half of it behind for the soil, simple conservation of resources..

There's actually a fair bit of evidence supporting "four inches of topsoil growth in 20 years" when you read the type of grazing literature I read - it depends largely on grazing management, which is universally very poor (hence the fertiliser requirements on many farms), because the grazing system/management can easily make or break the carbon drawdown, it depends how exploitive/ extractive/ degenerative you make it.

All of the worlds deepest soils are under rangeland/grassland simply due to what they have offered, over time - and how the pruners of this rangeland have behaved.
They said "nobody followed the bison with a fertiliser truck" but also they didn't follow them around with mectin drenches, or dole out the antibiotics, or spray weeds to then oxidise back into the atmosphere.

Bare land is a great warm place to sleep and crap on, so animal behaviour and their movement dynamics are really quite crucial to the soil process - if we completely remove predation then the grazers change their habits and behaviour, conversely if you have animals always on the move then the plants grow more soil instead of more sickly. The animals also grow more and less sickly.

Likewise, forage removal hugely depletes this inward Carbon flow, because the plants are constantly recovering from their pruning the Carbon is used for plant regrowth rather than soil growth - at least half the solar energy here is going into the soil, rather than attempting to utilise 90% through the animal - that course leads to poor health and performance - a huge benefit to the support industry, but few inside the farm-gate.
Likewise, I want to decrease how much I have parked up in the silage clamp and compost over time; because that's like selling half your ranch and putting the money in the bank earning 0%, after paying tax on it.

Nobody fed the bison silage either, they just moved further in a day to get to where the food was.

So these same principles can be moved to a conservation cropping context, or whatever you like - it's when many pay far too much for land and place financial pressure on themselves that is the problem.

We have an ongoing rush to mismanage the most productive parts of the globe, degrade their natural fertility, and that's going to leave our species f**ked, proper f**ked.

Importing N from Kazakhstan to grow maize locally to make more electricity so someone doesn't have to shut their computer down when they leave their office - this is where the smart investments are to be made: in human decadence and stupidity.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
Are brought in bales relatively cheaper fertility than the NPK? It is an interesting mental exercise when you really look.

What you're saying about the slow-grown grass the stock prefer is really quite a relevant thing to bring up, and neatly captures what we are aiming to do with our carbon grazing.
Rather than grow heaps of sugary crap to feed our cattle, we want it to be full of minerals and fibre, and the health and contentment goes to show.
Similarly, most wealthy nations have had health epidemics ever since we learned how to "grow two blades of grass where one grew before" - we are aiming to grow one blade, and leave half of it behind for the soil, simple conservation of resources..

There's actually a fair bit of evidence supporting "four inches of topsoil growth in 20 years" when you read the type of grazing literature I read - it depends largely on grazing management, which is universally very poor (hence the fertiliser requirements on many farms), because the grazing system/management can easily make or break the carbon drawdown, it depends how exploitive/ extractive/ degenerative you make it.

All of the worlds deepest soils are under rangeland/grassland simply due to what they have offered, over time - and how the pruners of this rangeland have behaved.
They said "nobody followed the bison with a fertiliser truck" but also they didn't follow them around with mectin drenches, or dole out the antibiotics, or spray weeds to then oxidise back into the atmosphere.

Bare land is a great warm place to sleep and crap on, so animal behaviour and their movement dynamics are really quite crucial to the soil process - if we completely remove predation then the grazers change their habits and behaviour, conversely if you have animals always on the move then the plants grow more soil instead of more sickly. The animals also grow more and less sickly.

Likewise, forage removal hugely depletes this inward Carbon flow, because the plants are constantly recovering from their pruning the Carbon is used for plant regrowth rather than soil growth - at least half the solar energy here is going into the soil, rather than attempting to utilise 90% through the animal - that course leads to poor health and performance - a huge benefit to the support industry, but few inside the farm-gate.
Likewise, I want to decrease how much I have parked up in the silage clamp and compost over time; because that's like selling half your ranch and putting the money in the bank earning 0%, after paying tax on it.

Nobody fed the bison silage either, they just moved further in a day to get to where the food was.

So these same principles can be moved to a conservation cropping context, or whatever you like - it's when many pay far too much for land and place financial pressure on themselves that is the problem.

We have an ongoing rush to mismanage the most productive parts of the globe, degrade their natural fertility, and that's going to leave our species fudgeed, proper fudgeed.

Importing N from Kazakhstan to grow maize locally to make more electricity so someone doesn't have to shut their computer down when they leave their office - this is where the smart investments are to be made: in human decadence and stupidity.


The initial levels of maths is simple enough....
so many £££ worth of granules to grow an extra so many bales.
Normally it is never worth it -well for me...some people have different calculators to mine.

Last year though we went for a second cut on quite a lot of ground, having gone early with the first cut (early for us)
After the prolonged dry spell, and empty barns, I could see the spot price in late winter could be stratospheric, so I wanted to gather everything I could.
We chopped a few extra cows, dumped stores on a very depressed market, fetched a load of clean barley straw in, and reckoned we'd survive a normal winter.
As it happens, we're now half way through an insanely kind winter, have retained the nucleus of the suckler herd, and will likely have fodder to spare.

That extra NPK was an insurance to ensure my costly hobby didn't run into a hideous loss.

I do dig further into the value of bought in fodder, and there's deffo a hidden residual value in buying hay off 'red' soil, but I'd guess not much in soggy 2nd cut silage.
I don't begrudge feeding a bit of cake here and there, as I can see the extra benefit in the ground where it's fed.


Anyway, it's all cobblers while the job doesn't pay. I'm far better off spending time in the mill, or at a keyboard.
Chasing a few cows must be good for my state of mind!

(and my offer stands, i'll give you £600,000- £700,000 per year -in arrears- to manage this place if your figures stack up, or we'll set up a holding company and start buying whole parishes)
.
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
The initial levels of maths is simple enough....
so many £££ worth of granules to grow an extra so many bales.
Normally it is never worth it -well for me...some people have different calculators to mine.

Last year though we went for a second cut on quite a lot of ground, having gone early with the first cut (early for us)
After the prolonged dry spell, and empty barns, I could see the spot price in late winter could be stratospheric, so I wanted to gather everything I could.
We chopped a few extra cows, dumped stores on a very depressed market, fetched a load of clean barley straw in, and reckoned we'd survive a normal winter.
As it happens, we're now half way through an insanely kind winter, have retained the nucleus of the suckler herd, and will likely have fodder to spare.

That extra NPK was an insurance to ensure my costly hobby didn't run into a hideous loss.

I do dig further into the value of bought in fodder, and there's deffo a hidden residual value in buying hay off 'red' soil, but I'd guess not much in soggy 2nd cut silage.
I don't begrudge feeding a bit of cake here and there, as I can see the extra benefit in the ground where it's fed.


Anyway, it's all cobblers while the job doesn't pay. I'm far better off spending time in the mill, or at a keyboard.
Chasing a few cows must be good for my state of mind!

(and my offer stands, i'll give you £600,000- £700,000 per year -in arrears- to manage this place if your figures stack up, or we'll set up a holding company and start buying whole parishes)
.
Excellent, that's about what I make already.

I've often considered doing more, buying a bigger place, but never really seen the need - I have a goal to get our returns up to 10% of capital invested first. Then, perhaps.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
Excellent, that's about what I make already.

I've often considered doing more, buying a bigger place, but never really seen the need - I have a goal to get our returns up to 10% of capital invested first. Then, perhaps.

Whenever you're ready, although i'm unsure about this wanting to get up to 10% return on capital.
Does that include the use of your time? Cos i'm often around that already.

Obviously if it's 10% return on capital excluding investors time, then we might still be talking, although it's a long way down on the figures you were talking about (this £1/hec per mm of rain)
 

glasshouse

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The Myth of Fertilizer
Home / Blog / The Myth of Fertilizer
heartleaf.jpg

We’re told fertilizers are simple; when a crop grows, it draws nutrients from the soil, these nutrients are then removed when you harvest a crop or sell the milk from your goat or take steers to the sales. At least that’s what has been taught to producers and agronomists since Liebig first did his NPK plant test in the 19th century.
Certainly, there is ample evidence for this in the field. Without fertilizer many hay producers see yields drop, and bare soil increase every year; dairy farmers produce less milk; and ranchers see reduced carrying capacities. It all makes logical sense. Doesn’t it?Clean calculations bring us a sense of security, something we can control and give people peace of mind. And these calculations stand true in conventional agriculture, 40 kg of P is removed by crops, so 40 kg must be replaced. An agronomist can predict yield based on an addition of 200kg of N – that’s as long as being outside doesn’t intervene with drought, hail, insects or disease. Many credit NPK fertilizers for the great leaps forward from the Green Revolution last century. However, that’s not the whole story, yield responses were due to several factors including irrigation, new cultivars, machinery and access to credit. Over 70% of new high yielding varieties of rice and wheat were bred enabling global yields to double.The benefits to producers have been a mixed bag, as these growing methods demand more investment into infrastructure, machinery and land. Over time input prices rose, and the return on products which now flooded markets, dropped. Many food producers are no more profitable per acre than they were 100 years ago. As a result, many producers had to “get big or go home”, and their kids left to the cities. In the US over 73% of smaller rural communities are shrinking as more people leave than arrive, a pattern mirrored across the developed world. Debt and stress are an everyday occurrence for many working on the land.



I recently presented to 30 ‘conventional’ cropping operators. One topic raised was, “who wants to see their kids take over the farm?” The resounding response was…a long silence. Then into the void a farmer spoke up, “I’m sick of this stress, of the debt, and the increasing inputs. Why would I want to hand this over to my kids?” Times like these make me reflect on the profound positive difference regenerative land systems can make in people’s lives. We’re not just talking soil, we’re talking about a revolution that impacts on every aspect of rural life. And its time is now.

If you put all of these pieces together, the Green Revolution has not delivered on its promises to producers. It is however delivering for the banks, supply and chemical companies; they come out laughing whichever way the dice land. The FAO (Food and Agriculture Organisation) is certain that modern farming has increased the risks for food producers, with market volatility and increasing climactic unpredictability. And farming is a risky business. Nature is fickle mistress; as all who work on the land know. How to mitigate risk is the greatest challenge for producers today.

I once had the privilege to hear a powerful presentation by soil scientist Dr Daniel Hillel. In 2012 he received the World Food Prize for developing a method termed “micro-irrigation agriculture” which increases water efficiencies in arid climates. He shared his story of camping with Bedouin in the Arab desert, he overheard an elder asking his students what 1+1 equals. Their answers were more varied than the stock standard “2” that western children are raised to answer. One child replied thoughtfully; “well, if it’s one nanny goat and one billy, then 1 plus 1 could be 3 or 4”.

When working with biological systems, 1+1 rarely equals 2. We often see surprising results as soil systems function again, as they flocculate (open-up), roots penetrate deeper, nutrient cycles turn and the carbon buffer builds.

There are multiple factors involved in building topsoil, one driver happens from the top down, with biological activity, and the other happens bottom-up through chemical and microbial mineralization. These soil building processes can dramatically speed up, making previously unavailable ‘locked-up’, raw mineral materials available to crops. One NZ high country station we’ve worked with saw the equivalent lifts of 1500 kg/Ha (1300 lb/Ac) in calcium in just one year across treated areas on the farm. That’s with no additions of calcium. Dr David Johnson (NMSU), Col Seis, the Haggerty’s, Gabe Brown (and many others) are measuring plant-available nutrient increases from 200 to over 1000% higher, just through stimulating this microbial mineralization process. It is how soils are meant to function; all without the need for external inputs. Consider, did a fertilizer truck follow the bison around?

I’m not saying the natural cycles are closed however, they not. We live in an interconnected world. The global P cycle is driven by organic inputs from animals like birds, bears, buffalo and wind. In 2015 NASA discovered that the Sahara was delivering phosphate dust to the Amazon, at about the same rate it was losing from erosion; around 22,000 T of the stuff every year. In many regions collapses in biodiversity are leading to catastrophic declines in ecosystem health. New Zealand forests for instance, once dependent upon regular seabird guano, are now hungry for P and diseases are running rampant. Bears in North America were significant contributors of nutrients, including N and P from their rich salmon diets, apparently yes, they do poo in the woods.

No man, or woman, is an island. Encouraging biodiversity, brings increased nutrients from outside the farm gate. A recent study in Nature concluded that seabirds are full of crap (at least that’s how I interpreted the papers title), with excrement making a global contribution to over 1.3 billion pounds of N and 218 million pounds of P. With birds and insects in our agricultural lands in rapid decline, their losses are having a broader impact on nutrient cycling. Insects are the “nitrogen thieves” in any ecosystem and when they poop and die they may be contributing as much as 40kg / N/ Ha! In an organic form readily available when plants need it. Unfortunately scientists are estimating we’re in the middle of a catastrophic insect extinction event, how much potential N have you lost or gained by encouraging insect diversity?

Our modern practices which create monocultural deserts are putting the costs back onto farmers, society and the wider environment. It’s not a lack of fertilizer that drives profit and resilience, it’s diversity. Diversity which is enhanced by diverse microbial communities, plant rooting systems, insects, birds, livestock and diverse crops. How can you increase the diversity above and below-ground? It’s well overtime for use to step away from 19th century extractive thinking into the 21st century of regeneration.

Written by: Nicole Masters 14th February 2019
Image by:Kim Deans, Linnburn Station
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Whenever you're ready, although i'm unsure about this wanting to get up to 10% return on capital.
Does that include the use of your time? Cos i'm often around that already.

Obviously if it's 10% return on capital excluding investors time, then we might still be talking, although it's a long way down on the figures you were talking about (this £1/hec per mm of rain)
Better start buying the Irish farmers journal for the better farm drystock pages and advice on getting profit out of sucklers!! Not sure if it will get you a 10 per cent return though?
 

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