average farmer
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I’m not planning on growing any, unless someone was to give me the seed don’t think I’ll bother
Winter beans
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Roy_H
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We used to shallow drill them into lightly worked stubbles with The Accord then plough them in . Then a few days later ( Weather permitting!) Run the rolls over it. It always worked well for us.
Ah Simazine! The good old days eh? it killed everything except the beans and cleavers.
Last year I drilled my beans with a claydon, got a yield of over 2 ton/acre but it was dry. Has anybody drilled beans with a claydon then sumo’ed after the drill to lift compaction and help drainage. My beans are going in on reasonably heavy land I don’t really want to plough it as it will turn up rough and probably very wet
I’ve got low disturbance points on the sumo. I just think that ploughing them in and then possibly powerharrow the ploughing to level it up will cost more and do more damage to the soil. It’s not been ploughed for 7 years so I’m a bit reluctant to turn it over if I don’t have to. If it’s wet then plough is the only option but the forcast is looking to be more settled after tomorrow.
Why not just stick the leading tines well in on the Claydon? I'd be concerned you'll finish up moving the beans with the Sumo, struggle to put it, and finish up with very variable emergence.
Other alternative I guess is to spin them on and bury with Sumo.
Far too wet to think about planting beans on heavy land here just now.
Is the soil compacted? If not, leave it well alone.
You must be a long way from Dorset - the forecast down here is awful for the next couple of weeks. You haven't put your location on your profile. Edit: just looked your posts up - you're in North Yorkshire. God's Country!
You must be a long way from Dorset - the forecast down here is awful for the next couple of weeks. You haven't put your location on your profile. Edit: just looked your posts up - you're in North Yorkshire. God's Country!
Is the soil compacted? If not, leave it well alone.
You must be a long way from Dorset - the forecast down here is awful for the next couple of weeks. You haven't put your location on your profile. Edit: just looked your posts up - you're in North Yorkshire. God's Country!
It’s not compacted really, conditions were dry when the wheat was harvested with a tracked combine and straw chopped. It’s just been lightly cultivated to get a flush of weeds.
Just worried they’d smear the soil and the beans would sit wet a long time. My thought process was that if the drill did smear it the the sumo would crack, disturb the smearing and let it drain more than just leaving it? I’m probably totally wrong but I keep getting these silly thoughts while watching it rain
I'd say that the Claydon would be enough. I've got 50 acres of beans to drill for a neighbour with my Claydon. How deep did you sow yours? I was just planning on using the 3" spoons and a pea/bean seed chute. Leading tines 2" deeper than the seed. It seemed to work well for another local on heavy clay last year & he was happy with the crop. It took all 370 horses under the bonnet to pull the 6m drill!
I'd agree with @Brisel, but I guess no harm in a trial. The other alternative is Sumo it first, deeper than you plan to drill it. Mine will be down with my Kockerling drill, about 5" deep. Thinking of cutting the 17" shares down to 12" to make it easier to pull and reduce disturbance. We usually run with 3 tines on a bar behind the tractor, which takes the wheelings out and some harvest compaction. The 3 tines run in line with the back 3 sowing legs. It needs to dry fairish first though. No rush. Yet!
Last year I planted them at 5inch as it was so dry, probably 4inch this year. It’s not my drill it’s a neighbor that will sow it for me again hopefully, he just said he had bean Coulter’s on and we dropped the front legs to 6inch last year.
yellow belly
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- south west lincolnshire
we used to put them in with a subsoiler
the biggest problem I found was you could plant them when it was too wet for them to do well
so I stopped growing winter beans and drilled springs in 2013 mid april springs were the best crop of the year eliminating bg
chopped straw and notill planted
the biggest problem I found was you could plant them when it was too wet for them to do well
so I stopped growing winter beans and drilled springs in 2013 mid april springs were the best crop of the year eliminating bg
chopped straw and notill planted
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- Bedfordshire
How does lateral compaction work with a Triton. Isn't that how they close the seed slot?
Ruston3w
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- south suffolk
Anyone in Suffolk/Essex cleaning some beans?
Looking like it will be 75 acres of beans now for you to claydon dril kind sir .
use an old combine sieve balanced on the spreader to do mine
Ruston3w
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- south suffolk
Good idea neighbour, though I haven't found the beans yet.
Richard.