glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
Its the house where the money is
talking on a tenant farm - how much rent should we pay?
- Thread starter RedHairedGirl
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- Location
- Dumfries and galloway
Ill never listen to my friends in rented farms moan again paying bout £60 an acre
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
£60 on a big farm is too much
- Location
- East meath/dublin
The big stumbling block is the lack of suitable contracts in the uk due to the chaotic mix of purchasers and lack of a strong farmer owned co - ops. A spring calving herd on a mostly grass based diet and around 500kg of cake stocked at 2 cows acre producing 6000litres of high solids milk apiece at say 30 p alitre is 1800acre milk sales. All going well of course ..... I f there were a milk buyer like Lakelands over here operating in Lincs then with those large fields and digestate to grow cheap maize and free straw what could possibly go wrong ?
Meanwhile back here my dairy operation is a bit of a hybrid 120 cows split roughly 60 / 40 winter and spring with a few stragglers through the year . I have 42 acres around the yard available to graze. Its divided in 21 paddocks of roughly 2 acres each one every day on a 21 day rotation . Its not nearly enough but atm its growing plenty of grass so the zero grazer is parked and the maize silage is stopped. Both are essential when heavily stocked to safeguard against weather related woes
The are getting 3 kg of barley gluten mix in the parlour . I supplied just short of 100,000 litres of milk in june at 355 pr and 456 fat in june so at current milk prices should net around 33000 euros for the month
If all my land was in one block would i give up grain growing ? Probably not i like the cows and enjoy the milking but i LOVE the clay and the the seat and steering wheel . Still milk is the only show in town for a small farm or a high rent tenant .
- Location
- Dumfries and galloway
They have a house on it, 2 even......thats where the money is so i was told
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
The house has less value on a big farm
- Location
- Dumfries and galloway
Whats a big farm?
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
Bigger than a council holding
- Location
- Dumfries and galloway
So renting a council farm with 125 acre for £200 is better than renting a 225 acre farm for £60....interesting 
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
I didnt say it was betterSo renting a council farm with 125 acre for £200 is better than renting a 225 acre farm for £60....interesting
Its called the market
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
If you rent a farmhouse with a 3 acre field
The rent is £5000 per acre
The rent is £5000 per acre
- Location
- Dumfries and galloway
Your talking about paying rent on a house with a garden from another income stream now. Dont think thats what the idea of renting a farm is about.
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
The landlord doesn't care how you earn the rent.
Few bigger farms dont have outside income these days
- Location
- somerset
the house is the problem, looking at it from a different view, the councils accounts department, probably know nothing about farming, but see 'they' are letting a house, at very low rent - why ? and, if in another industry, would ask the same question, the answer, probably the accountants view. But, it is hard for tenants, the whole picture is never considered.
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
- Location
- Lincolnshire
My land is in one block, and I have the digestate etc. Straw worth very little.
The stumbling block , and it isn't really, is that I am highly conservative when it comes to investing and spend a lot of time researching everything. It may seem like I'm not moving, but I will be checking everything to the last nut and bolt before making a decision.
- Location
- East meath/dublin
He who hesitates is lost !!
You like myself are not getting any younger . Buy a good bunch of heifer calves, you can get feb born calves over here for about 350 euros. The will eat all that new grass and you can feed them straw and rolled barley for the winter . Serve them next May and calve the following Feb then its game on .... Or you could sell them if you decide not to start.As you have abandoned high octane large scale contracting and are looking at your options then its either farm bees, butterflies, and envelopes or go for it .
This could be very intresting keep us all posted on your pilgrims progress !!!
- Location
- Dumfries and galloway
Whats your point?He who hesitates is lost !!
As you have abandoned high octane large scale contracting and are looking at your options then its either farm bees, butterflies, and envelopes or go for it .
This could be very intresting keep us all posted on your pilgrims progress !!!
- Location
- Lincolnshire
He who hesitates is lost !!
As you have abandoned high octane large scale contracting and are looking at your options then its either farm bees, butterflies, and envelopes or go for it .
This could be very intresting keep us all posted on your pilgrims progress !!!
In a previous life, I used to make envelopes for a printing company. As said, not getting any younger, but hence all the more need to not rush into anything that might take too long to get out of. I've had a very relaxing year, and certainly lost less money than if was spread over ten times the area. Knowing when, and how to get out is just as important as getting in.
- Location
- East meath/dublin
Tesla is looking at his farming options thats all . The qoute above appeared by mistake sorryb.