Roundup on skin

Highland Mule · Aug 9, 2020

Here's a typical label, which will help you in the absence of the specific one you had.

https://www.agrigem.co.uk/documents/amenity%20glyphosate%20label.pdf

Note that there is a number of precautions and warnings on the label, all of which you should have read before you started spraying, alongside the formal training that all people using sprays should have been trained and certificated against.

Can you confirm you've been certified to use sprayers, or were you working under some sort of derogation/ under close supervision of a qualified person? That would perhaps be common in some garden situations but should never be the case in professional agriculture.

jivkoss · Aug 9, 2020

farenheit said:
Who by? If you are a qualified sprayer operator for your job you should know what the label states.

I was told by my supervisor. She said there is nothing to worry about, but i doubt that.

farenheit · Aug 9, 2020

jivkoss said:
I was told by my supervisor. She said there is nothing to worry about, but i doubt that.

Huge activist tingle here.

Regardless, for Evil-Monsanto roundup 360gm formulation, which I assume you use or a similar product, the MSDS states:

So assuming you followed the correct guidelines, you'll be fine. If however, you didn't read the label, wear any PPE, have a legally required operator ticket, and used a leaky spray container, well, I'd point the blame at yourself than the product.

jivkoss · Aug 9, 2020

Highland Mule said:
Here's a typical label, which will help you in the absence of the specific one you had.

https://www.agrigem.co.uk/documents/amenity%20glyphosate%20label.pdf

Note that there is a number of precautions and warnings on the label, all of which you should have read before you started spraying, alongside the formal training that all people using sprays should have been trained and certificated against.

Can you confirm you've been certified to use sprayers, or were you working under some sort of derogation/ under close supervision of a qualified person? That would perhaps be common in some garden situations but should never be the case in professional agriculture.

I was instructed briefly by my supervisor.

Adeptandy · Aug 9, 2020

jivkoss said:
I was told by my supervisor. She said there is nothing to worry about, but i doubt that.

Then you should have read the label, afraid you competency to be doing the job does seem questionable, as does that of your supervisor in instructing you

Highland Mule · Aug 9, 2020

jivkoss said:
I was instructed briefly by my supervisor.

Not acceptable, and breaking the law. Have a word with your employer and refuse to do any such work until they have themselves sorted.

TripleSix · Aug 9, 2020

jivkoss said:
I don't know. I was told to use a stronger mix than described.

Well that's completely counter productive, and a waste of time and money.

Using it in too strong a concentration reduces it's effectiveness as it kills the plant before you get proper translocation to the roots.

steveR · Aug 9, 2020

jivkoss said:
Hello,

at my job as a gardener, I spray roundup 5-6 times per year from 9 to 12 o'clock in the mornings. I accidentally spilled about 300ml of roundup on my skin twice. The roundup was diluted (200ml of roundup to 8l of water). I took a shower 2h after the accidents. After the second accident, my skin felt itchy, I suppose because of the roundup. Does anyone has had a similar experience and can you tell me what are the dangers? I read roundup is very toxic.

What Country are you working in??

jivkoss · Aug 9, 2020

steveR said:
What Country are you working in??

Bulgaria

milkloss · Aug 9, 2020

Everybody thinking but not saying: He's going to sue the bolloks out of his employer.

Highland Mule · Aug 9, 2020

steveR said:
What Country are you working in??

Good question. I had assumed that @jivkoss was in the UK, but perhaps not....

@jivkoss :
Some helpful background, stolen from a random website.

The legal bit: The law states that anyone who uses or applies pesticides in Agriculture, Horticulture, Forestry, Industry or Amenity workplaces must possess a valid Pesticide Certificate in order to comply with regulations. This legislation isn't optional and it applies to volunteers, employed and self-employed people alike.

Grandfather Rights

There is no longer an exemption in UK law, commonly known as "grandfather rights”. The Plant Protection Products (Sustainable Use) Regulations 2012 exemption ceased to exist from 27th November 2015. Everyone who now uses PPPs authorised for professional use must hold a Certificate of Competence.

The various PA pesticide course options can get a bit complicated, so we've made it easier for you to see what's needed, (but if you have any other questions, do give us a call):

PA1 is the Foundation Theory Module, assessing knowledge of basic legislation for pesticides. PA1 must be passed by anyone wishing to take any other PA units.

PA2 is needed by anyone wanting to operate mounted or trailed boom sprayers. A separate ‘weed wiper’ qualification is also available – please ask for details.

PA3 is for Broadcast or Variable Geometry Boom Sprayers (mounted or trailed), with or without air assistance; typically for orchards.

PA4s is needed by anyone wishing to apply slug pellets.

PA6 is needed by anyone wishing to apply pesticides using a hand-held lance or knapsack type applicator. The lance may be vehicle-mounted e.g. on a tractor or ATV.

Highland Mule · Aug 9, 2020

jivkoss said:
Bulgaria

Please ignore my comments then - I have no insight to Bulgarian law..

Clive · Aug 9, 2020

I spent days with my back wet with it working on a farm with a rubbish backpack when i first left school

im still alive / fit and well

Daniel · Aug 9, 2020

Chae1 said:
It has been linked to cancer. I would get tested immediately.

Do you get yourself tested each time you eat bacon or drink coffee?!

Agriimark · Aug 9, 2020

Sometimes the questions asked on this forum leave me speechless and make my p!ss boil, some do it by the book, some create a book. . Titled health and safety

Bald Rick · Aug 9, 2020

jendan said:
And about 3 weeks for your arm to shrivel up and drop off.

At least it’s an arm

Bald Rick · Aug 9, 2020

Exfarmer said:
I would not like to think how many times I have had roundup both concentrated and dilute on my skin. After 40 years exposure I have had no ill effects yet.
I would suspect there are many in the industry , who if they tell the truth have had a similar history

Sheep dip sent me barmy for a day or so.
Mind you, that was derived from poison gas

GeorgeK · Aug 9, 2020

jendan said:
And about 3 weeks for your arm to shrivel up and drop off.

So it's armless really then?

Phil P · Aug 9, 2020

Bald Rick said:
Sheep dip sent me barmy for a day or so.
Mind you, that was derived from poison gas

Are you sure you recovered

Bald Rick · Aug 9, 2020

Phil P said:
Are you sure you recovered

No.
Was a proper bitch as neighbour had scab so we had to dip with plod and his stopwatch.
Went to buy batteries day later and git in to an almighty row with the shopkeeper because he didn’t have AAs. Very weird

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