Lanark texel sales, today.

andybk

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tell me why not then.
i would be very surprised if hes fully fertile considering what it takes to get to top of a breed sale (unless hes been tested am happy to be corrected ) been a rash of ones bought online down here over lockdown from another seller , all blanks , and other parts of country according to my twitter feed
 

Top Tip.

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i would be very surprised if hes fully fertile considering what it takes to get to top of a breed sale (unless hes been tested am happy to be corrected ) been a rash of ones bought online down here over lockdown from another seller , all blanks , and other parts of country according to my twitter feed
How many of these infertile tup lambs will become fertile once they have come off their sale diet and are hardened up?
 

Ysgythan

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i would be very surprised if hes fully fertile considering what it takes to get to top of a breed sale (unless hes been tested am happy to be corrected ) been a rash of ones bought online down here over lockdown from another seller , all blanks , and other parts of country according to my twitter feed

that’s a big impediment, but plenty are fertile. Let’s assume he is.What’s stopping him now?
 

andybk

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How many of these infertile tup lambs will become fertile once they have come off their sale diet and are hardened up?
who knows , ive known of a few that have never come right , i expect quite a few will recover more or less over 12 months , most issue will be down to fat around balls , making them over heat ,
 
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andybk

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that’s a big impediment, but plenty are fertile. Let’s assume he is.What’s stopping him now?
nothing i should think , all the dream chasers will be queing round the block for a piece of the action , personally i would wait till hes a grandsire (what i usually buy on from both sides ) see how well his genetics get passed down
 

neilo

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How many of these infertile tup lambs will become fertile once they have come off their sale diet and are hardened up?

Most of them do ime. If I buy a pushed 7 month old lamb in July, I consider it a bonus if they are fertile. Of those that haven’t been, all the ones I’ve ever bought have come right by October.

Life shortening problems like fatty livers and an undeveloped rumen are more of an issue ime.
 

Ysgythan

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Why would he?
What's so commercially special about him that plenty of other sheep don't have?

growth, shape, character, all you’d want in a crossing tup. I put pedigree stock tups on mules and have done for years. A good stock tup makes good crossbreds. I’ll concede the issue you can get with very growthy tups is a lack of finish at 42kg, but those are the “shearling makers” that this one definitely isn’t.
 

andybk

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I guess it depends where you look.
Plenty of breeders cull poor walking sheep.
Did you think the locomotion of the expensive ram was good or bad?
he didnt look too bad to be fair , dont think ive seen a beltex thats good , must be skeletal structure ,
its what put me off texels in the 80s , never liked the locomotion of the breed .Saw a few in paris show that were huge but legs and feet were very good .
 

Ysgythan

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he didnt look too bad to be fair , dont think ive seen a beltex thats good , must be skeletal structure ,
its what put me off texels in the 80s , never liked the locomotion of the breed .Saw a few in paris show that were huge but legs and feet were very good .

I’m just looking at your Avi...
 

andybk

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I’m just looking at your Avi...
best ram i ever bred lol, perfect for my job in every way ,was line bred so really stamped offspring , good males and milky females , sold well over 250+ commercial rams from him alone over 8 years , huge loin and backend ,light headcover and structurally 100% , shame he died year before i exported would have really made an impact.
 

Ysgythan

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best ram i ever bred lol, perfect for my job in every way ,was line bred so really stamped offspring , good males and milky females , sold well over 250+ commercial rams from him alone over 8 years , huge loin and backend ,light headcover and structurally 100% , shame he died year before i exported would have really made an impact.

sack the photographer :joyful:
 
growth, shape, character, all you’d want in a crossing tup. I put pedigree stock tups on mules and have done for years. A good stock tup makes good crossbreds. I’ll concede the issue you can get with very growthy tups is a lack of finish at 42kg, but those are the “shearling makers” that this one definitely isn’t.
I'm not disputing that he might do a fine job, but I'm quite sure that plenty of rams at a few hundred quid will sire commercial lambs that will do just as well, maybe even better.

To say he would simply smash it when compared to other rams, isn't realistic.
 

andybk

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I'm not disputing that he might do a fine job, but I'm quite sure that plenty of rams at a few hundred quid will sire commercial lambs that will do just as well, maybe even better.

To say he would simply smash it when compared to other rams, isn't realistic.
a local farmer that often won a carcass trophy at bath and west was bragging one day that he never paid more than £200 for a ram , but he didnt tell you about the carp he took to sedge on a saturday out the same rams , Whats makes a good ram is the % of good finish able lambs he produces in the e-u-r range , as its usually the last 10-15% you sell thats the profit margin
 

Ysgythan

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I'm not disputing that he might do a fine job, but I'm quite sure that plenty of rams at a few hundred quid will sire commercial lambs that will do just as well, maybe even better.

To say he would simply smash it when compared to other rams, isn't realistic.

I’m not saying that others wouldn’t, but there’s no reason to suppose he wouldn’t either.
 

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