Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
Then you don't have the heavy duty ramps which are nearer 50kgs each than 17 for sure.
Legal towing weight for Jeep and 3 Axel Trailer
- Thread starter Trench Box
- Start date
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
8' IW alloy ramps are 34kg, GE 30kg
Steel GE 60kg a pair, so guess IW would be 70-ish.
Steel GE 60kg a pair, so guess IW would be 70-ish.
Same rules applied in Uk and Irl I think. Up to 3.5 ton, you can tow a GVW of what is marked and permitted on the plate on the jeep or van not whats on the trailer plate.
Tomtrac
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- Location
- Penrith cumbria
My ifor 14ft tri axle headboard and ramps
6’6 weighs 750 kg over a bridge
How come not many off you people know your exact unladen weight
You need that to know how many bricks bloks or anything els on your trailer or i supose you just weigh the whole lot on a bridge
Daft a tri axle steadeir towing and 50% more braking than a twin axle can carry less than a twin axle
6’6 weighs 750 kg over a bridge
How come not many off you people know your exact unladen weight
You need that to know how many bricks bloks or anything els on your trailer or i supose you just weigh the whole lot on a bridge
Daft a tri axle steadeir towing and 50% more braking than a twin axle can carry less than a twin axle
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
I hope for / await some informed info from Eire
This whole thread is crazy
You'll have the data for the tow vehicle dependent on model and age. All available via a search engine
Ditto for the tare weight of the trailer
The gross weight and axle weight should be displayed on the manufacturer plate, typically on the drawbar
If it's not own livestock and within a certain radius and if it was in the UK there'd be a tacho to consider too
Check also on your licence that you carry (and the licence displays) appropriate trailer towing entitlement
well mine are not 30kg at the most each
Dave W
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- Location
- chesterfield
Well my ramps are heavier than your ramps so there
that explains the hernias then strength by design not weightWell my ramps are heavier than your ramps so there
we wont go into body strength best left alone aWell my ramps are heavier than your ramps so there
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
The maximum trailer weight for standard license holders is, up till now, harmonised through the EU and is specified on the trailer plate to a maximum of 3.5 tons for light vehicles using over-run brakes. Not sure about driving license and the need, or otherwise, of a special test for commercial towing, which is a whole separate kettle of fish, as is the need or otherwise for a tachograph with all the regulations that go with it.
The towing vehicle limit is specified by the manufacturer and illustrated on its plate and/or operator's manual. So it is quite simple, you take the lower of either vehicle or trailer limits and the driver's allowed license category taking account of age and insurance issues.
If people can't work this out, which is all relatively simple, then they should avoid risking it by towing with ignorance. In other words, if you are clueless about your and your vehicles status, do not tow until you find out.
JohnBoy
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- Location
- Southern Ireland.
Post the VIN plate of the jeep. (@Cowabunga anything with raised suspension and bigger tyres than a golf is called a jeep over here)
there will be two weights on the VIN, one is the vehicle weight and the other is the train weight. subtract one from the other to get your max towing weight. subtract your trailer weight from that to get your load capacity.
If you have a B+E licence then you can tow up to 3500kg, if the vehicle and trailer are both rated for that weight. if they are not you can tow the lower of the vehicle's weight rating or the trailer's weight rating.
if you only have a B licence then you can tow a combined 3500kg vehicle and trailer weight, assuming the vehicle is rated for the weight and stupidly the trailer must be plated for it too.
ie if you have a vehicle that is weighted at 2000kg, and tow rated at 2000kg then you can tow a trailer plated up to 1500kg. not a the actual weight of the trailer, but the plated max weight of the trailer.
It's stupid.
(I have no idea if a HGV licence entitles you to tow a trailer behind a car, but this is Ireland so probably not)
there will be two weights on the VIN, one is the vehicle weight and the other is the train weight. subtract one from the other to get your max towing weight. subtract your trailer weight from that to get your load capacity.
If you have a B+E licence then you can tow up to 3500kg, if the vehicle and trailer are both rated for that weight. if they are not you can tow the lower of the vehicle's weight rating or the trailer's weight rating.
if you only have a B licence then you can tow a combined 3500kg vehicle and trailer weight, assuming the vehicle is rated for the weight and stupidly the trailer must be plated for it too.
ie if you have a vehicle that is weighted at 2000kg, and tow rated at 2000kg then you can tow a trailer plated up to 1500kg. not a the actual weight of the trailer, but the plated max weight of the trailer.
It's stupid.
(I have no idea if a HGV licence entitles you to tow a trailer behind a car, but this is Ireland so probably not)
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
Fair enough. But I'm not sure some of the comments 'know' that, bur are just posting anyway.
I live drive and comply to UK driving laws, I know what I need to do to comply here... but I wouldn't make assumptions for another country - in or out of the EU.
But if it's the same there as here you're wrong - 3.5t is not max trailer weight on a standard license. That is reserved for the B+E (unless you're an old bugger)...
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
Well it is patently NOT a 'Jeep' and used generically the word conveys absolutely nothing about the brand or model other than it actually might be one of the many and various Jeep models that have an amazing array of towing limits.
The trailer plated weight need not be changed to any lower limit. That is a total misconception. As long as the total trailer weight is below the lower limit allowed by license or towing vehicle, it complies with the relevant laws regardless of it being plated to 3500kgs gross.
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
I have plainly stated that age limits may apply.
Why is it that some people find this so hard?
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
Because you imply there's age limits - which suggests what you're allowed to do changed as you get older (driving age limit, drinking age limit, voting age limit...). There is not. There is a cut off date when the licences changed
ive said this from the start
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Sadly, you’re wrong there. A new UK based driver without trailer allowance can tow a trailer of <750kg behind any vehicle they are licenced to drive, or a heavier trailer provided the the plated weights add up to less than 3500kg.
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
How is that contrary to what I said? It's pretty much obvious. But to tow commercially they will be required to undertake a towing test to get the relevant class on their license. Towing domestically is another matter. If you are towing a farm trailer for business then you need this license. If you are towing the trailer for business but not an exempt business such as agriculture within certain other limits, such as distance allowance from base, then the driver and vehicle will also require a tachograph. Machinery dealers, for instance, delivering say a fertiliser spreader behind a pickup to a farm, do require the use of a tachograph. If. tachograph is required and fitted for a particular use, then it is required to be used permanently while towing even if the particular activity is exempt.
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- Scottish Highlands