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le bon paysan · May 30, 2022

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bobk · May 30, 2022

Lowland1 · May 30, 2022

le bon paysan said:
Well its carp now and won't get better.
A whole lot easier if you signed up to the Veterinary standards, but the government is set on lowering standards, its why they won't sign it.

Why are Indian nurses any different to EU nurses?
Personally wouldn't care who my nurse was as long as they are competent.

Indian nurses probably are no better or worse than EU ones the problem is really cultural. EU citizens are generally white christians from fairly well developed countries who blend in reasonably well. Indians won’t

robs1 · May 30, 2022

HatsOff said:
Because under the EU freedom of movement (which was also about freedom of labour - if you were unemployed there was no automatic right) there were reciprocal rights for UK citizens.

It is clear to me that during the referendum debate, when immigration was discussed the idea was that numbers would reduce (as was stated Tory manifesto policy). It doesn't concern me that hasn't happened, but it is a bit disingenuous to not recognise that is what people who voted leave would have expected to be the result of Brexit.

You missed out the word SOME
Many leave voters myself included did not vote leave because of free movement but for other reasons

robs1 · May 30, 2022

Lowland1 said:
Immigrants don’t generally come on the off chance of finding work. They come to fill a void. I know dozens of people who have gone from Kenya to the UK They have gone to fill jobs not on spec.The big problem is people are living longer and they still need services and supplies so the labour has to come from outside. Farage and his mates failed to explain population demographics to the electorate. As for the housing ‘shortage’ being caused by immigration i am a bit dubious surely your average immigrant needs a bedsit near to the hospital or care home. not a four bed detached in the home counties.

The immigrant doesnt need a four bed house but their family will when they come too.
Quite a few of the polish share houses between several families until they can afford to buy their own house.
Too many brits have been educated into an entitlement idea that the state should provide, I'm sure there are plenty in every country that are idle and useless, they dont tend to emigrate

arcobob · May 30, 2022

I have no objection to immigrants who are able to contribute to the wealth and well being of this country. They can stay as long as they like as long as the growing resident population who do not want to work any more go and live somewhere else.

stewart · May 30, 2022

arcobob said:
I have no objection to immigrants who are able to contribute to the wealth and well being of this country. They can stay as long as they like as long as the growing resident population who do not want to work any more go and live somewhere else.

That’s been tried before with the UK sending the great unwashed to the penal colonies.

arcobob · May 30, 2022

stewart said:
That’s been tried before with the UK sending the great unwashed to the penal colonies.

Or voluntarily to NZ perhaps.

bobk · May 30, 2022

stewart said:
That’s been tried before with the UK sending the great unwashed to the penal colonies.

Starting tomorrow

Ministers plan most deportations on one day with 300 to be sent home

Ministers are planning the biggest deportation exercise ever attempted on one day, with flights planned to go to Iraqi Kurdistan, Albania and Bangladesh on Tuesday

www.dailymail.co.uk

bobk · May 30, 2022

Rwanda starting 7th June .
Boris will do this ,

capfits · May 30, 2022

bobk said:
starting 7th June .
Boris will do this ,

Much more likely, as he has been at it every day for the last couple of years.

czechmate · May 30, 2022

capfits said:
Much more likely, as he has been at it every day for the last couple of years.

thanks for that reminder; I used to love it’s a knockout

capfits · May 30, 2022

czechmate said:
thanks for that reminder; I used to love it’s a knockout

You are welcome.

Ashtree · May 30, 2022

Oh dear….

ollie989898 · May 30, 2022

bobk said:
Rwanda starting 7th June .
Boris will do this ,

I can't see that flying people to a holding facility in Rwanda is legal but hey ho. Any reason they did not select say Barbados or the Seychelles, not being funny but I've never seen Rwanda on wish you were here.

le bon paysan · May 31, 2022

ollie989898 said:
The trade deal you speak of, would that be the same one where the trading deficit with the EU widened every year the UK was a member?

arcobob said:
Surely the contributions to this crumbling club should have reduced accordingly or in other words the subs reduced ?

HatsOff · May 31, 2022

robs1 said:
You missed out the word SOME
Many leave voters myself included did not vote leave because of free movement but for other reasons

Fair comment - I should have said 'some'.

But that doesn't negate my point - 'take back control' and the Tory manifesto were all about reduction in immigration. On that measure, Brexit is a failure. Had the leave campaign been honest about the ongoing levels of immigration, would they have won?

BrianV · May 31, 2022

HatsOff said:
Fair comment - I should have said 'some'.

But that doesn't negate my point - 'take back control' and the Tory manifesto were all about reduction in immigration. On that measure, Brexit is a failure. Had the leave campaign been honest about the ongoing levels of immigration, would they have won?

Has Brexit really been a failure re immigration, to date this year so far 60,000 Ukrainians have come to the UK along with thousands of migrants across the channel & untold thousands from else where, if we still had freedom of movement & the million plus EU citizens hadn't gone home who knows how many additional people would enter the UK this year alone, People complain about rising rents & the terrible cost of houses but would it be more affordable if all these extra people were still free to arrive?
Rents & house prices are only going to go one way as the country sinks under an ever expanding population!

robs1 · May 31, 2022

HatsOff said:
Fair comment - I should have said 'some'.

But that doesn't negate my point - 'take back control' and the Tory manifesto were all about reduction in immigration. On that measure, Brexit is a failure. Had the leave campaign been honest about the ongoing levels of immigration, would they have won?

Exactly take control, that's what we have
We are allowing people in because we need them we can choose who we have, hard working people with skills not uncontrolled economic migrants

ollie989898 · May 31, 2022

robs1 said:
Exactly take control, that's what we have
We are allowing people in because we need them we can choose who we have, hard working people with skills not uncontrolled economic migrants

Main bonus of Brexit as far as I can see is the government are now more accountable and can't hide behind EU this or EU that.

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