- Location
- East yorks
We do and the trading name on both gateways. Still had one get lost Friday and end up in the neighbours
Bloody hauliers ( again )
- Thread starter Dman2
- Start date
We do and the trading name on both gateways. Still had one get lost Friday and end up in the neighbours
Derky
Member
- Location
- Bucks/oxon
If your not happy with the haulier sell it delivered. Build up a good relationship with your local haulier. It works both ways with lorries yes sometimes its short notice as problems arise with mills breaking down etc but often we will go out of way to fit in around the farmer to load.
Northeastfarmer
Member
- Location
- Cleveland
You reckon they’ve been reading this thread...
Yip
Must be Monday already
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And he even rang as he was leaving Topcliffe
Oats all cleaned up now
3t/ acre
Not bad for this year
- Location
- northumberland
boss tells me 1 day last week "there's a load of brewers grains coming in the morning" half hour later get a txt off driver as i know him anyway to say don't sleep in in the morning so a few txts back n forth him saying he's just parked up for the night (930ish) and me well i'm still leading rape and probably won't be home till midnight so don't rush in the morning , fine i'll see you half 8 ish, 25 past 8 wagon pulled in, awkward tip in lowish shed and done by 9 with a bit of catch up crack, can't fault that
, fine i'll see you half 8 ish, 25 past 8 wagon pulled in, awkward tip in lowish shed and done by 9 with a bit of catch up crack, can't fault that Resurrecting this thread as I’ve had enough these last two weeks. We sold 8 loads of wheat for Jan collection. This got pushed into Feb. The buyer booked for collections for Thursday and Friday last week. Then every day this week. Thursday last week heard nothing and nobody turned up. 7am Friday morning two wagons turned up. I was on my own with two children leaving at 7.30 on the school run so couldn’t load till 9. One wagon disappeared one waited. I then get a call from the buyer saying that I’d refused to load 
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I rang the haulier enquiring about this week informing them 9 is the earliest I can load. Monday morning 6.30am driver on the phone saying he’s waiting. I couldn’t load him so he had to wait till 9. Yesterday driver rang at 8 saying he’ll be there at 9 but turned up at 12.
So far today nothing, no communication. Why should I be the one waiting around and having to chase them. I’m fed up with it as it just gets worse and worse. The buyers send loading times to the hauliers as I get copies but the hauliers just completely disregard the instructions and just think they can do what they want. And the worst hauliers are the farm based ones because they just assume we’re all available stupid hours like they do. Well I’m off today at 2 for an appointment and won’t be back till early evening so I hope they come in as they will of wasted their own fuel due to poor communication yet again.
.I rang the haulier enquiring about this week informing them 9 is the earliest I can load. Monday morning 6.30am driver on the phone saying he’s waiting. I couldn’t load him so he had to wait till 9. Yesterday driver rang at 8 saying he’ll be there at 9 but turned up at 12.
So far today nothing, no communication. Why should I be the one waiting around and having to chase them. I’m fed up with it as it just gets worse and worse. The buyers send loading times to the hauliers as I get copies but the hauliers just completely disregard the instructions and just think they can do what they want. And the worst hauliers are the farm based ones because they just assume we’re all available stupid hours like they do. Well I’m off today at 2 for an appointment and won’t be back till early evening so I hope they come in as they will of wasted their own fuel due to poor communication yet again.
- Location
- 200 miles N,NW of New York
Well what do you expect
To put another perspective on this as a haulier, I have seemingly endless occasions where farmers are given clear communication of when our trucks are arriving only to arrive and be told ‘the loader is somewhere else’, ‘I forgot you were coming’, ‘you’ll have to wait an hour I’m not ready’, ‘sorry my loader brakes don’t work too well’ as they clatter the side of the truck. Bulk haulage is about being flat out and spending as little time on farm as possible or it simply doesn’t work.
My point is, whilst every farmer is not like the ones described above, to consider every haulier the same as you all describe is very one sided.
My point is, whilst every farmer is not like the ones described above, to consider every haulier the same as you all describe is very one sided.
I wouldn't have said he was going at every haulier. Some outfits have a good communications ethic, and some are absolutely crap, sometimes to the point of being non existent.
As a Farmer, I am aware that there a myrad of potential problems that can hit a truck en route, but just a phone call from the driver works wonders. But throw a useless Transport Manager into the mix who is illiterate (well, he cannot read collection conditions!!) then what do you expect?
Worse still have been the odd outfit, that will not allow the drivers to call the loading farmer.... All comms through the Office, who sometimes know what is happening, but I suspect they just look at the GPS tracker, and make a guess?
- Location
- Sutton Coldfield
If everyone knows whats happening and do as agreed, then no one is wasting their time.
I must say that hauliers that come to us are generally very good, we know to expect them AM or PM on a particular day and ask for a phonecall when they are about an hour away. We are then waiting with the doors open and loader warmed up.
ollie989898
Member
Organise your own haulage- there are plenty of very good hauliers about. Some prefer local stuff, others will do longer haul work. I used to work by giving the haulier the fixings to get into the mills and let them liaise with the farmer.
If you work with a couple of local hauliers and let them truck your entire annual tonnage for sensible rates you will get good service and stuff will move and get done and the buyer will be happy as well. The more notice you give them the better they can plan their workload, especially for the longer haul stuff as it gives them half a chance to find a back load and make some money.
As for farms with loaders that are clearly defective- that just isn't on any longer. HSE should be on the case with loaders, the number I have seen about without working lights, mirrors and the handbrake hasn't worked since it clocked 1000 hours is just an accident waiting to happen.
If you work with a couple of local hauliers and let them truck your entire annual tonnage for sensible rates you will get good service and stuff will move and get done and the buyer will be happy as well. The more notice you give them the better they can plan their workload, especially for the longer haul stuff as it gives them half a chance to find a back load and make some money.
As for farms with loaders that are clearly defective- that just isn't on any longer. HSE should be on the case with loaders, the number I have seen about without working lights, mirrors and the handbrake hasn't worked since it clocked 1000 hours is just an accident waiting to happen.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
My loading hours are 7am-5pm all year round, at least 24hrs notice for loading and a call at least one hour before arrival. All made clear when selling grain to merchants.
No phone call, no load, that simple.
No phone call, no load, that simple.
kiwi pom
Member
- Location
- canterbury NZ
Sell everything delivered and organise your own haulageResurrecting this thread as I’ve had enough these last two weeks. We sold 8 loads of wheat for Jan collection. This got pushed into Feb. The buyer booked for collections for Thursday and Friday last week. Then every day this week. Thursday last week heard nothing and nobody turned up. 7am Friday morning two wagons turned up. I was on my own with two children leaving at 7.30 on the school run so couldn’t load till 9. One wagon disappeared one waited. I then get a call from the buyer saying that I’d refused to load
I rang the haulier enquiring about this week informing them 9 is the earliest I can load. Monday morning 6.30am driver on the phone saying he’s waiting. I couldn’t load him so he had to wait till 9. Yesterday driver rang at 8 saying he’ll be there at 9 but turned up at 12.
So far today nothing, no communication. Why should I be the one waiting around and having to chase them. I’m fed up with it as it just gets worse and worse. The buyers send loading times to the hauliers as I get copies but the hauliers just completely disregard the instructions and just think they can do what they want. And the worst hauliers are the farm based ones because they just assume we’re all available stupid hours like they do. Well I’m off today at 2 for an appointment and won’t be back till early evening so I hope they come in as they will of wasted their own fuel due to poor communication yet again.
Have a watch of Gemma Warren's YouTube channel (she hasn't posted yet this year) she drives a bulker in England mostly doing farm collections and deliveries. It will give you some idea of the challenges they face every day.
Her next to last video was of her getting a load rejected, through no fault of her own and the problems it caused.
Flatland guy
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Brilliant full documentation, so everyone knows where they stand!
Derky
Member
- Location
- Bucks/oxon
Haulage currently is on its knees. Last week 3 large bulk hauliers went bust. There is an awful lot of people without a clue having a go at the min. It is extremely tough. Our lorries currently are getting rejected 25% of the time. Try planning for that in a week. Its a nightmare. Tonight Bedford broken down and now we have lorries going in the opposite direction to a store to get tipped screwing tomorrows and Fridays plans.
Walk a mile in another man’s shoes
Why such a high percentage getting rejected?
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Sell everything delivered and organise your own haulage
Have a watch of Gemma Warren's YouTube channel (she hasn't posted yet this year) she drives a bulker in England mostly doing farm collections and deliveries. It will give you some idea of the challenges they face every day.
Her next to last video was of her getting a load rejected, through no fault of her own and the problems it caused.
15 hours waiting for a rejected load to be re-directed .......
ollie989898
Member
Rejected for what reason?
Mind, there are some unscrupulous or rather daft farmers about who try to flog iffy grain but thankfully rare in my experience- I guess most people who grow any real tonnage of grain know the risks and spend their time monitoring it carefully.
I couldn't work at a mill and that looking out the window would be an endless row of trucks waiting to tip- would drive me nuts. Same as if I worked at the docks, I couldn't sit still knowing there were lots of trucks waiting to unload or be loaded, I'd be out there running a loading shovel myself if I had to.
I still to this day do not know how anyone makes money in bulk haulage- it's a dark art I just won't ever understand. Those truckers must have the patience of saints working in traffic all day, being given 20 minute slots to arrive in and all that jazz- it would drive me nuts.