All change again in east of scotland

sexy lexy · Sep 27, 2016

McD said:
That would be silly for Case. The reason for there poor sales is because they are a red ford. Ford lads won't buy them cos there red and case lads don't like them cos there a ford. They are just as good as there blue counterparts but attitudes towards them in this area are generally bad.

Spot on, the dealer not the problem, its the product, red nh.

tweedale terrier · Sep 27, 2016

I'd say they are both more fiat than ford. Ford was a better tractor than fiat.

McD · Sep 27, 2016

x121x said:
That's not entirely true, a Case should be compared more to a Steyr than a NH. Basic spec on a Case is far Higher than that of a NH. Does the poor attitude in the north stem from customer or could this come from the dealer too? Maybe adds reason to the recent situation

How so? Multi controller mk1 had the Steyr handle but since they went on to mk2 I can't personally see where the Steyr bit comes from, it just a ford inside with slightly different switches. As for the spec yes NH offers lower spec but also at a lower price. I know this to be fact because I used to drive a Case for a tattie contact, I now drive a NH for that very reason. Poor attitude also stems from poorer re sale values at any other than case dealers.

fermerboy · Sep 28, 2016

With this mess I'm almost glad that I'm hard up and not buying anything new!!

Christ knows who's going to be selling what soon.

Zebbedee · Sep 28, 2016

fermerboy said:
With this mess I'm almost glad that I'm hard up and not buying anything new!!

Christ knows who's going to be selling what soon.

Affects what you buy s/h as well though as all the dealer personnel lose touch with the older models and so much valuable information about parts and repair becomes lost sadly

Diesel burner · Sep 28, 2016

Does anyone have any truth here or all just "a heard" ???

cfr1964 · Sep 28, 2016

Diesel burner said:
Does anyone have any truth here or all just "a heard" ???

Mostly just "heard " I'd imagine
Why spoil a good story by asking if it's true

Stormin · Sep 28, 2016

Facts are , A M Phillip have lost Case and gained Massey at Forfar , Fraserburgh and Huntly , Alan Mckay has lost Massey and gained Valtra and would actively be looking for a premises in Aberdeenshire.
Balgownie lose Massey and are yet to replace it , Murphys lose Valtra and are yet to replace it.
Ravenhill and Agricar will not be taking on Case.

fermerboy · Sep 28, 2016

Stormin said:
Facts are , A M Phillip have lost Case and gained Massey at Forfar , Fraserburgh and Huntly , Alan Mckay has lost Massey and gained Valtra and would actively be looking for a premises in Aberdeenshire.
Balgownie lose Massey and are yet to replace it , Murphys lose Valtra and are yet to replace it.
Ravenhill and Agricar will not be taking on Case.

Have A M Philips got Fendt at Connon Bridge? Or is that more speculation?
Heard that Ross Agri wouldn't open a depot up thereabouts hence the move.
May be untrue though.

fermerboy · Sep 28, 2016

Diesel burner said:
Does anyone have any truth here or all just "a heard" ???

AM Philips start selling MF on Saturday 01 October, told this yesterday by a salesman in Huntly. So true enough.

Jim75 · Sep 28, 2016

fermerboy said:
Have A M Philips got Fendt at Connon Bridge? Or is that more speculation?
Heard that Ross Agri wouldn't open a depot up thereabouts hence the move.
May be untrue though.

So the word on the street is. How much business they'll do is anyone's guess

Stormin · Sep 28, 2016

fermerboy said:
Have A M Philips got Fendt at Connon Bridge? Or is that more speculation?
Heard that Ross Agri wouldn't open a depot up thereabouts hence the move.
May be untrue though.

I have "heard" not but don't know it as fact.

x121x · Sep 28, 2016

McD said:
How so? Multi controller mk1 had the Steyr handle but since they went on to mk2 I can't personally see where the Steyr bit comes from, it just a ford inside with slightly different switches. As for the spec yes NH offers lower spec but also at a lower price. I know this to be fact because I used to drive a Case for a tattie contact, I now drive a NH for that very reason. Poor attitude also stems from poorer re sale values at any other than case dealers.

So why are other dealers in heavily populated NH areas flourishing and growing there businesses?

x121x · Sep 28, 2016

McD said:
How so? Multi controller mk1 had the Steyr handle but since they went on to mk2 I can't personally see where the Steyr bit comes from, it just a ford inside with slightly different switches. As for the spec yes NH offers lower spec but also at a lower price. I know this to be fact because I used to drive a Case for a tattie contact, I now drive a NH for that very reason. Poor attitude also stems from poorer re sale values at any other than case dealers.

sexy lexy said:
Spot on, the dealer not the problem, its the product, red nh.

So If It's a red NH then surely they would be able to equal the selling numbers of NH after all as you say it's just a "red NH"

cfr1964 · Sep 28, 2016

x121x said:
So If It's a red NH then surely they would be able to equal the selling numbers of NH after all as you say it's just a "red NH"

Aye but the NH dealer network has been pretty stable in Scotland for a long time. In the largest part since the Ford days
Instead of chopping and changing
Plus I can't vouch for the far north but the parts of the east coast I've seen Ford /NH have been more popular than Case for a long time

Dave6170 · Sep 28, 2016

Have highland tractors lost massey as well? @Jim75. They had a good rep didnt they?

Jim75 · Sep 28, 2016

Dave6170 said:
Have highland tractors lost massey as well? @Jim75. They had a good rep didnt they?

I'd say so from my dealings. Good honest company. Not heard anything to say otherwise.

greenpiece · Sep 28, 2016

Have been reading these posts , I can honestly say what utter shite has been spoken ,

quattro · Sep 28, 2016

greenpiece said:
Have been reading these posts , I can honestly say what utter shite has been spoken ,

How can it be shite when most of it has turned out to be true ?
What part of the country are you ?

Dave6170 · Sep 28, 2016

I dont think thats right, apart from balgownie the smaller massey dealers do a good job. Wish highland tractor would do up here. We have to go to linklater in orkney

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