Total Lockdown?

essex man · Jun 14, 2021

neilo said:
Boris has pre-empted that by sticking 2 fingers up to @Pasty , @essex man , @gone up the hill , et al. All to give extra time for them to get vaccinated.

Thinking the best hope for the future is more restrictions rather than less.
Have seen this coming as I have previously indicated.
So I am grateful to Boris for the extra month and hope it lasts til spring.

neilo · Jun 14, 2021

MRT said:
I am not alone in this I know, but if I had to place blame, I would place it squarely on the shoulders of the boogie

So, just to get this absolutely clear, you would absolve the sunshine, the moonlight and the good times of all blame?

caveman · Jun 14, 2021

Trying to delay the inevitable.
When all opens up and furlough ends...there will be millions finding they ain't got a job.
Basically those who just shuffle money around whilst not earning for UK plc.

MRT · Jun 14, 2021

neilo said:
So, just to get this absolutely clear, you would absolve the sunshine, the moonlight and the good times of all blame?

In retrospect sunshine and even strong moonlight are also implicated. I'm a red head in early summer.

Gong Farmer · Jun 16, 2021

neilo said:
Boris has pre-empted that by sticking 2 fingers up to @Pasty , @essex man , @gone up the hill , et al. All to give extra time for them to get vaccinated.

It is increasingly being pointed out that if lockdown had ended they would lose the licence to use an experimental vaccine. 'Emergency measures' would no longer apply. If the aim is to vaccinate more of the population then we must be under lockdown.

Highland Mule · Jun 16, 2021

Fromebridge said:
It is increasingly being pointed out that if lockdown had ended they would lose the licence to use an experimental vaccine. 'Emergency measures' would no longer apply. If the aim is to vaccinate more of the population then we must be under lockdown.

Really? Care to point out where that is noted?

ARCHIVE: Conditions of Authorisation for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech (Regulation 174)

www.gov.uk

le bon paysan · Jun 16, 2021

R rate could jump as high as 7 without any lockdown restrictions, warns PHE

Twenty-five variants currently being ‘monitored’ and eight ‘under investigation’, says expert

www.independent.co.uk

gone up the hill · Jun 16, 2021

neilo said:
Boris has pre-empted that by sticking 2 fingers up to @Pasty , @essex man , @gone up the hill , et al. All to give extra time for them to get vaccinated.

Only bed wetters/fools listen to Boris now...

I will NOT have the vaccine come hell or high water for the simple fact that if the vaccine worked/ is effective then there is No need for the lockdown rules to be extended after the 21st of June 2020.....

Charlie Gill · Jun 16, 2021

gone up the hill said:
Only bed wetters/fools listen to Boris now...

I will NOT have the vaccine come hell or high water for the simple fact that if the vaccine worked/ is effective then there is No need for the lockdown rules to be extended after the 21st of June 2020.....

What if the simple fact was; that not enough people had benefited from the vaccine by June 21st?

gone up the hill · Jun 16, 2021

Charlie Gill said:
What if the simple fact was; that not enough people had benefited from the vaccine by June 21st?

They keep moving the goal posts as you well know!

Come Mid July they will say : untill Kids over the age of 12 have been vaccinated we cannot lift the lockdown, then when they have achieved that it will be : we need to vaccinate all kids over 8 years old before we lift lockdown, then it will be ; we cannot lift lockdown as the NHS is under winter pressure from the flu/ c-19 and so it will go on.

If your scared/ a bed wetter then stay at home 24/7 so everyone else can get on with life.

You only get one life and it is far too short regardless of c-19, how many years should everyone give up to protect the scared few like Neilo for example?

essex man · Jun 16, 2021

Charlie Gill said:
What if the simple fact was; that not enough people had benefited from the vaccine by June 21st?

To do what, lift the non existent pressure on the NHS? decrease the record low mortality rates still further?

gone up the hill · Jun 16, 2021

essex man said:
To do what, lift the non existent pressure on the NHS? decrease the record low mortality rates still further?

I think Boris actually wants - zero covid deaths before he lifts lockdown!

ollie989898 · Jun 16, 2021

MRT said:
In retrospect sunshine and even strong moonlight are also implicated. I'm a red head in early summer.

You should try being an Englishman in New York!

ollie989898 · Jun 16, 2021

I'm all in favour of never lifting the lockdown. And making it a legal requirement to wear a mask outside of your own home.

The main objective of this policy will be to pish GUTH off.

essex man · Jun 16, 2021

gone up the hill said:
They keep moving the goal posts as you well know!

Come Mid July they will say : untill Kids over the age of 12 have been vaccinated we cannot lift the lockdown, then when they have achieved that it will be : we need to vaccinate all kids over 8 years old before we lift lockdown, then it will be ; we cannot lift lockdown as the NHS is under winter pressure from the flu/ c-19 and so it will go on.

If your scared/ a bed wetter then stay at home 24/7 so everyone else can get on with life.

You only get one life and it is far too short regardless of c-19, how many years should everyone give up to protect the scared few like Neilo for example?

The measures will stay because they are popular.
Justifications do not need to be credible because people want and are incentivised to believe in them.

gone up the hill · Jun 16, 2021

essex man said:
The measures will stay because they are popular.
Justifications do not need to be credible because people want and are incentivised to believe in them.

I think you are wrong about the current measures being popular!

UK Gov polls show that the majority of UK people support measures but said polls at run by a company owned by a UK Gov minister....need i say more!!

But in the real world both online and in real life it is about 70/30 against the current lockdown/ rules and them being extended!

And as for the Gov polls, well they are soo accurate that just before the brexit vote they claimed that about 70% of people wanted to stay in the EU... Even thou in real life/ on online comment sections it was clear as night follows day that the UK population was split 50/50 on which way to vote and that is was clear in the few days before the brexit vote it could go either way thou would be very close regardless of a yes/no win even thou the GOV polls were showing the overall yes vote was miles ahead of the no vote..

Gov polls are NOT worth the paper they are written on!

Highland Mule · Jun 16, 2021

gone up the hill said:
I think you are wrong about the current measures being popular!

UK Gov polls show that the majority of UK people support measures but said polls at run by a company owned by a UK Gov minister....need i say more!!

But in the real world both online and in real life it is about 70/30 against the current lockdown/ rules and them being extended!

And as for the Gov polls, well they are soo accurate that just before the brexit vote they claimed that about 70% of people wanted to stay in the EU... Even thou in real life/ on online comment sections it was clear as night follows day that the UK population was split 50/50 on which way to vote and that is was clear in the few days before the brexit vote it could go either way thou would be very close regardless of a yes/no win even thou the GOV polls were showing the overall yes vote was miles ahead of the no vote..

Gov polls are NOT worth the paper they are written on!

Do you mean Yougov polls? Don’t think the U.K. government do many polls themselves, and certainly didn’t publish any in the run up to Brexit.

essex man · Jun 17, 2021

gone up the hill said:
I think you are wrong about the current measures being popular!

UK Gov polls show that the majority of UK people support measures but said polls at run by a company owned by a UK Gov minister....need i say more!!

But in the real world both online and in real life it is about 70/30 against the current lockdown/ rules and them being extended!

And as for the Gov polls, well they are soo accurate that just before the brexit vote they claimed that about 70% of people wanted to stay in the EU... Even thou in real life/ on online comment sections it was clear as night follows day that the UK population was split 50/50 on which way to vote and that is was clear in the few days before the brexit vote it could go either way thou would be very close regardless of a yes/no win even thou the GOV polls were showing the overall yes vote was miles ahead of the no vote..

Gov polls are NOT worth the paper they are written on!

You don't think WFH is popular?
More money in your pocket and a substantial increase in your effective hourly rate?
It's so popular they are trying to at least pretend it's forever now.
You don't think handing out cash to the self employed whilst they continue to work is popular.

Gong Farmer · Jun 17, 2021

gone up the hill said:
I think Boris actually wants - zero covid deaths before he lifts lockdown!

Er, we've been there.

essex man · Jun 17, 2021

It will end when it is popular to end it, probably around the time they lose the ability to print and borrow in such enormous quantities.

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