Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
Can't believe nobody mentioned a Dacia Duster too.
BMW X5 v Porsche Cayenne
- Thread starter icanshootwell
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- Lincs / Cambs border
We will keep extending the warranties on our as long as we can .
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
My friends £1400/Yr for LR warranty on his D5!
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- Lincs / Cambs border
That wouldn’t buy a lot of repairs at at a main dealer.
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
True. But shouldn't need to buy it. It's only 4 years old.
Get 7 Yr warranty on a kia. Kind of shows how much faith LR have in there vehicles.
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- Lincs / Cambs border
Yes I totally agree Land Rover have got some issues but I don’t want to drive a Kia I like my Defender . ( while it’s working)
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
It seems to be luck of the draw.
Dads got a 15 plate rrs with 70k miles and has been no problems at all!
Have 2 friends had engine failures, 1 a d5 and 1 a rrs.
Dads got a 15 plate rrs with 70k miles and has been no problems at all!
Have 2 friends had engine failures, 1 a d5 and 1 a rrs.
Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
My 08 [plate just had constant error issues so the car would not start or it went into limp home mode. The LR garage demanding £1200 for 3 tyres at its first service certainly put us on a bad footing, especially when my local tyre man charged me £30 for a major repair on one and the other 2 had no issues at all!
The stainless exhaust falling apart at 40K miles sealed its fate
AnyOldName
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- The Motor City
Can someone point me to the old farming forum? The one where everyone moans about being skint, that there is no money in agriculture and that we’re all F’d!
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- Matching Green
I've never had a an X5 but certainly one friend who had a 3.0D one loved it from the day he had it new until it suffered terminal engine failure somewhere in the Cambridgeshire Fens with a 130,000 miles on the clock.
I am on my second Cayenne, albeit I am buying them second hand when most people would probably be getting rid. The first was a 2003 (955) 4.5S which did suffer the well known plastic coolant pipe issue. I bought it in 2012 with 72,000 miles on the clock and kept it until 2021 by which time it had done 107,000 miles without any dramas other than the coolant pipes. It was a great drive for heavy 4x4 and made proper V8 noises but it drank like a fish, I never got the trip computer to show an mpg figure that didn't start with a 1, long term 18mpg was about as good as it got. Off road on sensible 18 inch tyres it was very capable, Porsche used the L332 Range Rover as the off road development yardstick. It even had a low range gearbox.
When I decided it was time for a change I first looked at the face lifted 957 4.8S but it was really the same car and despite the increased engine capacity. I decided to look for a 958 and chose a diesel simply because over 80% of 958s sold in the UK were diesels. Having driven one that a little forensic examination of the service and MOT records revealed it had been clocked, it showed 85,000 but it must have done at least 135,000 miles I took a punt on one that had done 107,000 miles when I bought it. The 958 is much more car like than the 955 and the 8 speed auto and lighter weight means the 3.0 diesel matches the 4.5S acceleration up to 70mph, the handling is much more nimble
Unlike my relatively basic 955 I had the 958 I bought has enough toys to become a money pit - air suspension with adaptive damping and steering Xenons. To mitigate this I decided to break the full Porsche service history and service it myself. I bought Autel OBD tablet so I can reset service counters and diagnose faults. Engine oil (Castrol), filter, fuel filter and cabin filter (all Mann) come to about £100 from Amazon. I have done the transmission oil and filter as well for peace of mind along with the serpentine belt and tensioner. Because of the mechanical similarities to VW/Audi parts are readily available and not expensive. Now past 122,000 miles I have replaced one ABS sensor and replaced the battery which was the original one.
My Cayenne is not my daily driver but I love driving it. I have got rid of the 21 inch wheels because even on the motorway you can bulge the tyre walls and use 19s in the summer and 18s in the winter.
I am on my second Cayenne, albeit I am buying them second hand when most people would probably be getting rid. The first was a 2003 (955) 4.5S which did suffer the well known plastic coolant pipe issue. I bought it in 2012 with 72,000 miles on the clock and kept it until 2021 by which time it had done 107,000 miles without any dramas other than the coolant pipes. It was a great drive for heavy 4x4 and made proper V8 noises but it drank like a fish, I never got the trip computer to show an mpg figure that didn't start with a 1, long term 18mpg was about as good as it got. Off road on sensible 18 inch tyres it was very capable, Porsche used the L332 Range Rover as the off road development yardstick. It even had a low range gearbox.
When I decided it was time for a change I first looked at the face lifted 957 4.8S but it was really the same car and despite the increased engine capacity. I decided to look for a 958 and chose a diesel simply because over 80% of 958s sold in the UK were diesels. Having driven one that a little forensic examination of the service and MOT records revealed it had been clocked, it showed 85,000 but it must have done at least 135,000 miles I took a punt on one that had done 107,000 miles when I bought it. The 958 is much more car like than the 955 and the 8 speed auto and lighter weight means the 3.0 diesel matches the 4.5S acceleration up to 70mph, the handling is much more nimble
Unlike my relatively basic 955 I had the 958 I bought has enough toys to become a money pit - air suspension with adaptive damping and steering Xenons. To mitigate this I decided to break the full Porsche service history and service it myself. I bought Autel OBD tablet so I can reset service counters and diagnose faults. Engine oil (Castrol), filter, fuel filter and cabin filter (all Mann) come to about £100 from Amazon. I have done the transmission oil and filter as well for peace of mind along with the serpentine belt and tensioner. Because of the mechanical similarities to VW/Audi parts are readily available and not expensive. Now past 122,000 miles I have replaced one ABS sensor and replaced the battery which was the original one.
My Cayenne is not my daily driver but I love driving it. I have got rid of the 21 inch wheels because even on the motorway you can bulge the tyre walls and use 19s in the summer and 18s in the winter.
Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
Both X5 and Cayenne do last time I looked X3 maxes out 2.8 i think
ollie989898
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Good man, post some more photos of that interior, I can almost feel the itch of wanting to clean and detail it. Glad you get on well with yours. They are smart cars. Does it have a low ratio box and locking diffs?
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- Matching Green
Sorry I haven't got many other interior pictures but here are a few pictures.
The 955 and 957 (2003-2010) all had a low box and locking centre diff with a locking rear diff part of a very rarely seen off-road package. When designing the 958 (2010-2018) series they were looking to reduce weight and improve economy so the low box went along with forged steel lower suspension arms replaced with aluminium alloy. The petrol V6, V8 and later diesel V8 all have a transfer case with computer controlled wet clutches to adjust torque split, almost 100% either to either axle; this probably needs more maintenance than Porsche scheduled and they can give trouble. The V6 diesel and the hybrids have a totally mechanical Torsen diff in the transfer case (from the VW Touareg) which can adjust the torque up to approximately 80% to either axle. With the introduction of the 8 speed auto with quite a low first gear the low box isn't a big miss; Cayennes have always relied on traction control and hill decent control to improve their off-road prowess and all except the hybrid have an off-road mode that adjusts the maps for throttle, gearshift and traction control.
Changing from 19s to 18s for winter:
Looking the part outside Brasenose College in Radcliffe Square, Oxford:
Abit less pace improves economy:
It's quite grippy even on 255 winter tyres:
I'm no detailer! Usually I don't think the Germans do wood well but this walnut pack seems to compliment the two tone leather well:
Priced out of the July 2011 price list, it was a dealer demo originally.
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
Not sure about wooden gear selector!
Prefer the Swarvoski cristal one BMW offer with diamond pack. @Matt77
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- East Sussex
The wife had her eye on that
each to their own with interior tastes but I'd like to at least get into my 50s before I go for wooden trim, I'd feel like I'm getting in father in laws car 
ollie989898
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I'm not one for wood in a cabin but that Porka I quite like the look of. Piano black trim also looks nice. Anything to avoid a wall of carbon fibre.