Rich_ard
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would there be bit sticking out with 2 layers. I would imagine the wind ripping it that thin. If I watch a wrapper going you sometimes see bits unwrapped untill the end of the cycle
Haylage wrapping question
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Pistonbroke
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The only time I've seen it done it was a disaster. If you leave netted straw bales out with gaps between them they just get a crust that dries out with a bit of wind, hay aswell. If y do a shite job of wrapping it,wet gets in but doesn't dry out,it just gets held in there and rots it
Yes it can.
Botulism in haylage/silage
Those Clostridial bacteria are a group of nasty buggers. My dad died as a result of a combination of age and Clostridium difficile. Then there are the Blackleg group and Clostridium tetani. But don't forget Clostridium botulinum. The Clostridials are Gram-positive, rod-shaped, anaerobic...
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Also an older farmer not far from us died of Listeria from bales iirc. .
the Op needs to know that 6 or even 8 layer wont stop bird damage either.
Rich_ard
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Stick a thermometer probe in it. If its hot then there will be damage. If only 2 layers on I'd think there will be damage even if you can't see it. Although I doubt any contractor would have put 2 layers on. I can't get mine to do 4 instead of six. He says what's the point it's still costing you for me to wrap it and you will save a fifty pence a bale.
Northeastfarmer
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Botulism from air entering the bale or frogs?Yes it can.
Botulism in haylage/silage
Those Clostridial bacteria are a group of nasty buggers. My dad died as a result of a combination of age and Clostridium difficile. Then there are the Blackleg group and Clostridium tetani. But don't forget Clostridium botulinum. The Clostridials are Gram-positive, rod-shaped, anaerobic...
Also an older farmer not far from us died of Listeria from bales iirc. .
the Op needs to know that 6 or even 8 layer wont stop bird damage either.
Yes mind them frogs.
Seriously tho as he says in the first line " Those Clostridial bacteria are a group of nasty buggers. "
Clostridial diseases (like what we vaccinate stock against) of which Clostridium botulinum is one . well they are all around in the Soil and can multiply /causes strong toxin in the right environment .
Maybe not so obviously as killing the Animal itself but causing abortion of course.
Listeria isnt one of that group but still similarly likes a certain microclimate to multiply in to dangerous levels
....end of todays lesson
haylage bales will be less well fermented /higher PH by its nature , even without holes in it.
Pistonbroke
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Last year being so hot our baled stuff was too dry for my liking and we had a lot of listeria in the ewes which I haven't seen in twenty years.
Sack the tedder and rake driver
Or maybe just teach them how to set the tines?
Most common source for listeria is soil contamination when machines scrape the ground. Poor fermentation makes it worse
Or mole hills, they kill sheep
Pistonbroke
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Hmmm....I'd have to sack myself.
I'm not saying we're free of moles but no worse than other years. Usually make silage fairly fresh,goes through the Keenan and bale chopper easier and never had problems with listeria. Last year it was like haylage and lower quality and had about ten ewes with it
gavztheouch
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How many turns should i do to get 6 layers of wrap i have a 750 mm single roll of film machine havent used the wraper for years?
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24 on 4ft bale
gavztheouch
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Thank you