Adblue delete

[Spotty Dog]

Seeking opinions on whether its wise to have adblue deleted on a brand new machine. Manitou telehandler with a 3 year warranty.

 

[Chae1]

We were advised not too on Manitou so didn't.

It's deleted on tractors.

@ACEngineering will be best person to ask.

 

[e3120]

To be fair, never had an adblue fault on a manitou in warranty, so I'd leave it. They can get snotty on claims.

After the 3 years is out is another matter.

 

[manfromhill]

Why would you do it while under warranty up to them to fix
Usage of any telehandlers I’ve had is normally low

 

[Wesley]

To be fair, never had an adblue fault on a manitou in warranty, so I'd leave it. They can get snotty on claims.

After the 3 years is out is another matter.

Exactly this. Never had an issue (yet) & if I did the warranty would sort it. They don’t use much anyway.

 

[Chae1]

We've spent several thousand pounds repairing Manitou ad blue problems.

 

[Spotty Dog]

Its done 50 hours from new, in 10 days and adblue tank is now almost empty. Thats a lot of adblue in 3 years. Plus the downtime if anything does go wrong.

 

[e3120]

I would guess we're about 250l of adblue per 1000hr year. < £100?

 

[Wesley]

Its done 50 hours from new, in 10 days and adblue tank is now almost empty. Thats a lot of adblue in 3 years. Plus the downtime if anything does go wrong.

I don’t know what one you’ve got but a 635 won’t take more than 10 litres when the gauge is on the last bar.

 

[Boysground]

I think i’m on my 5th manitou with add blue, I run 2 doing 1500 hours a year each. I can’t remember touching the add blue system on any of them. I guess it probably invalidates the warranty. I know my dealer definitely would not do it.

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[ACEngineering]

Seeking opinions on whether its wise to have adblue deleted on a brand new machine. Manitou telehandler with a 3 year warranty.

No, on the whole hardly hear of any adblue issues on the manitous.

 

[ACEngineering]

Ive a 2018 MLT 741 v plus near me and they just changed the adblue filter for the first time since new! must be around 4k hours or more on it? was only changed cause they was doing a major service and i mentioned about it never had one.

Sometimes i wonder if leaving them alone is the better thing, its in a awkward place to change filter and there is a high risk of dirt contamination during changing and once filter housing is open to the air its all starting to crystalise etc which cant be good for it.

I think the storage and hygine when filling the tanks and possibly the tank breather vent are the most important factors with adblue. If its all spotless going in does the filter really need changing that often??

 

[icanshootwell]

Ive a 2018 MLT 741 v plus near me and they just changed the adblue filter for the first time since new! must be around 4k hours or more on it? was only changed cause they was doing a major service and i mentioned about it never had one.

Sometimes i wonder if leaving them alone is the better thing, its in a awkward place to change filter and there is a high risk of dirt contamination during changing and once filter housing is open to the air its all starting to crystalise etc which cant be good for it.

I think the storage and hygine when filling the tanks and possibly the tank breather vent are the most important factors with adblue. If its all spotless going in does the filter really need changing that often??

That's why we started buying in 20litre amounts, always clean when filling, the old 200 l drums were dirty around the pipe and pump.

 

[dave6470]

Ive a 2018 MLT 741 v plus near me and they just changed the adblue filter for the first time since new! must be around 4k hours or more on it? was only changed cause they was doing a major service and i mentioned about it never had one.

Sometimes i wonder if leaving them alone is the better thing, its in a awkward place to change filter and there is a high risk of dirt contamination during changing and once filter housing is open to the air its all starting to crystalise etc which cant be good for it.

I think the storage and hygine when filling the tanks and possibly the tank breather vent are the most important factors with adblue. If its all spotless going in does the filter really need changing that often??

A friend who is a MF fitter told me to leave the filter alone only change if it gives problems

 

[Wesley]

Ive a 2018 MLT 741 v plus near me and they just changed the adblue filter for the first time since new! must be around 4k hours or more on it? was only changed cause they was doing a major service and i mentioned about it never had one.

Sometimes i wonder if leaving them alone is the better thing, its in a awkward place to change filter and there is a high risk of dirt contamination during changing and once filter housing is open to the air its all starting to crystalise etc which cant be good for it.

I think the storage and hygine when filling the tanks and possibly the tank breather vent are the most important factors with adblue. If its all spotless going in does the filter really need changing that often??

I’m going to have to pay attention, can’t say I’ve noticed it listed on service invoices for any of the adblue manitous we’ve had. All done by main dealer & in warranty

 

[ACEngineering]

I’m going to have to pay attention, can’t say I’ve noticed it listed on service invoices for any of the adblue manitous we’ve had. All done by main dealer & in warranty

Oh you would notice it there about £80 now from a dealer i think but not long ago they was over £100

 

[livestock 1]

A friend of mine who runs tippers advised me to change the adblue filters even though they aren’t on the service sheet. He said one of the big causes of knackered pumps is partially blocked filters. He runs them over 1 million k’s and never had a pump.
Apparently there’s 2 filters the bigger one and a very small thinner one somewhere else on the pump which I’ve never found I’ve only changed the bigger ones
Bosch pumps

 

[Magnus Oyke]

Its done 50 hours from new, in 10 days and adblue tank is now almost empty. Thats a lot of adblue in 3 years. Plus the downtime if anything does go wrong.

Depending on the size, a new Telehandler is what, £90,000 - £100,000? You're worried about a bit of adblue? I very much doubt Manitou, or anyone else would entertain a warranty claim on one that's been deleted. Even a small claim would wipe out your adblue saving.

Ours is 3 years old, admittidly doesn't do many ours, but the emissions system thus far hasn't been an issue. It's had a claim on a gearbox, so obviously we had that deleted.....

 

[e3120]

I’m going to have to pay attention, can’t say I’ve noticed it listed on service invoices for any of the adblue manitous we’ve had. All done by main dealer & in warranty

My tame, main dealer, mechanic is firmly in the 'leave it well alone' camp.

 

[betweenthelines]

It's fitted for a reason.

Deleting/disabling an anti pollution device is illegal