Annual conformation

[chaffcutter]

Read section 5 of the handbook, it’s not perfect but it does outline the process

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

Two year Italian ryegrass grazed, wheat, barley, turnips, repeat. Agronomist wrote off my OSR this morning. Stem weevil. But IR will be the new break with a few more sheep.
I think I can do slightly better than SFI.

Be VERY careful with Italian Ryegrass, you do not want it as a weed on your farm.

 

[DrWazzock]

Be VERY careful with Italian Ryegrass, you do not want it as a weed on your farm.

Thanks for that. It absolutely powers away leaving all other grasses behind. About 6” growth on it since Christmas where other grasses have hardly moved. It had 30 kg of N at establishment last spring, and has only been grazed since. It’s on very poor sand but looks a picture. We’ve grown it before. Just don’t let it seed!
This really is at the heart of the SFI dilemma for us. Use the best productive grasses/ crops/ techniques there are and maximise production per acre (in which case we don’t need SFI) or compromise production and take the payment?
My gut says just go for optimal production simple and straightforward. I might even rejoin NIAB TAG or whatever it’s called now as it helped me fine tune to our soil types.

 

[Billboy1]

Now he is asking the audience...

he could ask the host ? oh hang on !

 

[yellow belly]

imho dont worry about it yet when we need to do it we will soon learn how they want us to do it

imho get on with delivering the actions on the ground and let the rpa/defra get on with new applications and new actions quickly
we want the new actions as soon as possible the money is sittiing with the rpa
we do not want the treasury to get ideas that because it is not paid out farmers do not need it
so treasury can spend it some where else


they will have an online system to declare your areas of action you put in the application
this will then update the system automatically once they have confirmed your areas

this i hope will be just an area per claim
but they might have to make it on a field parcel level although janet did say in the answers to tff questions that she was planning to have a simple declaration on a whole claim level
haveing an online system (Like the application system )on a parcel level has it advantages because it will be pre populated with parcel areas and do all the adding up saving the need for us to do a spread sheet to do the maths (this would help the rpa do their checks as all parcels areas would match up with the areas they have on record

 

[04tlobb]

I asked this question and didn’t really get a straight reply, lady on the phone said probably best thing to do is email us with Parcel that will be changing and updated areas before end of first year going into second year be a right pain on several rotational options changing between fields!

 

[Hindsight]

imho dont worry about it yet when we need to do it we will soon learn how they want us to do it

imho get on with delivering the actions on the ground and let the rpa/defra get on with new applications and new actions quickly
we want the new actions as soon as possible the money is sittiing with the rpa
we do not want the treasury to get ideas that because it is not paid out farmers do not need it
so treasury can spend it some where else


they will have an online system to declare your areas of action you put in the application
this will then update the system automatically once they have confirmed your areas

this i hope will be just an area per claim
but they might have to make it on a field parcel level although janet did say in the answers to tff questions that she was planning to have a simple declaration on a whole claim level
haveing an online system (Like the application system )on a parcel level has it advantages because it will be pre populated with parcel areas and do all the adding up saving the need for us to do a spread sheet to do the maths (this would help the rpa do their checks as all parcels areas would match up with the areas they have on record

I asked this question and didn’t really get a straight reply, lady on the phone said probably best thing to do is email us with Parcel that will be changing and updated areas before end of first year going into second year be a right pain on several rotational options changing between fields!

The system for annual declaration will mirror the current system for Mid Tier and CSS annual declaration - as it is that system being used for the application and initial data capture. My view why we are not being told the exact mechanics is that politically Defra been told to make it simple (and not like BPS as that was an EU thing! and because RPA will require funding and admin, which is a cost and politically damaging) and yet with rotational options it has to be a quite detailed annual declaration. The Mid Tier annual declaration works well.

 

[yellow belly]

The system for annual declaration will mirror the current system for Mid Tier and CSS annual declaration - as it is that system being used for the application and initial data capture. My view why we are not being told the exact mechanics is that politically Defra been told to make it simple (and not like BPS as that was an EU thing! and because RPA will require funding and admin, which is a cost and politically damaging) and yet with rotational options it has to be a quite detailed annual declaration. The Mid Tier annual declaration works well.

mid tier does not populate areas like the sfi aplicatiuon

janet did sat that it would be a declaration of one area per claim not on a parcel basis

what is needed is a system that automatically updates the payment system without a need for repeated checking like on the mid tier /bps which delays payment and needs manual checking

currently the sfi application once accepted is paid automatically quaterly by the system
mid tier is payed 11 months after at the earliest but can be up to 9 months after end of the year

 

[topground]

If it suits the RPA you will get it wrong whatever you declare. You then have the security of an appeal process to guess who? The RPA. Good luck!