Bateman RB35 refurb?

[Jack Russell]

We have an 8 year old Bateman RB35 that is around 7000hrs. It does spraying and liquid fert on 1000ha combinable. Booms are getting tired and maybe some pipe work is getting a little stiff and worn in places so was contemplating a refurb rather than a replacement. Try and get another 6000hr on it. Has anyone done this? I assume someone like Avison sprayers will refurb and tidy machines for resale. What other bits should we consider replacing? It’s had 2 wheel motors so far at around 5000hr.

Cheers

 

[ollie989898]

Contact Bateman and see what they will do for you, I seem to remember they had a reputation of being a really good helpful firm to deal with?

 

[Al R]

Ask Bateman, I know most of the manufacturers do as I’ve driven 2 British make of sprayers and both had had refurbs the winter before

 

[Clive]

We have an 8 year old Bateman RB35 that is around 7000hrs. It does spraying and liquid fert on 1000ha combinable. Booms are getting tired and maybe some pipe work is getting a little stiff and worn in places so was contemplating a refurb rather than a replacement. Try and get another 6000hr on it. Has anyone done this? I assume someone like Avison sprayers will refurb and tidy machines for resale. What other bits should we consider replacing? It’s had 2 wheel motors so far at around 5000hr.

Cheers

our rb35 did 12,000 hrs spray and fert iirc without refurb - it had no major dramas but got through several wheel motors (lots of road work didn’t help) still had plenty life in it when we sold it at over 50% of new cost !

 

[Clive]

Contact Bateman and see what they will do for you, I seem to remember they had a reputation of being a really good helpful firm to deal with?

2nd to none in my experience


i think the factory do refurbishment as well

 

[warksfarmer]

We have an 8 year old Bateman RB35 that is around 7000hrs. It does spraying and liquid fert on 1000ha combinable. Booms are getting tired and maybe some pipe work is getting a little stiff and worn in places so was contemplating a refurb rather than a replacement. Try and get another 6000hr on it. Has anyone done this? I assume someone like Avison sprayers will refurb and tidy machines for resale. What other bits should we consider replacing? It’s had 2 wheel motors so far at around 5000hr.

Cheers

There is a company that specialises in Bateman refurbishments as I’ve seen them advertising on one of the fb farming pages. I can’t seem to locate it at the moment though typically but I’ll keep looking.

 

[Romeogolf]

I would certainly go to Bateman ahead of anyone else, they know the machines so well and will be far more helpful going forward than an independent. With the price of brand new replacements, I am firmly of the belief that better the devil you know is far more attractive.

 

[Power Harrow Pilot]

Guy Shelby had his refurbed before he sold it, think S+k sprayers did it.

 

[Timbo1080]

Other than the booms. I will have forgotten most stuff that we have done to the last 2 (RB15 & RB35), but as a starter.......Replace King Pins & all those bits that go with them, plus the bushes in the large chassis arms....Or replace. All dampeners, air drier, fit an autolube kit too. While the tank is off for a decent period, check ALL hoses & replace the steering rod bearings and have a bloody good look at the track rod ends on all the steering rams/parts/joints. Check the self levelling valves/actuators. Have a damn good look at the main hydraulic drive hoses from the Lindi pump too....And replace if in doubt, adding in the most recent anti hose chafing plate. Replace the gas accumulators (Not really necessary, but they're not too dear and a barsteward if they fail). Have the tank off the frame & blast/clean up the inevitable corrosion that you will have on the tank frame (Liquid fert). Most importantly, just give all the hydraulic hose routing channels a damn good clean.....It's surprising how much crap builds up in there and wears the hoses.....Especially if you're on abrasive soils, and you wont want to have any of them fail in the field (Not that they do very often, but while its in bits.....). They're just a big Meccano kit really (Richard was VERY clever in that respect....And in many others, obviously). Have done a couple, and am due to do the booms on our VG imminently, but can't decide whether to chop it in and go to Horsch, or carry on with this one (Bought absolutely unloved and abused, even came with a complimentary 9" nail in the front offside rowcrop, a broken X-Frame, cracked tank, Stilson adjusted factory set injectors............ but which is now teched up to the nine's, and mechanically all spot on, but the paintwork is shagged). I must add, that I have generally had Bateman do the King Pins, and the barsteward hoses. Bateman are very good with support......if you want parts, or can DIY after a phone call (If you can get through), or (And its probably the biggest one) if you have a dire emergency - Such as a blown wheel motor hose on a main road (Properly saved my skin there), but having had their machines since the Agillator, I can honestly say that the service guys are second to no other Sprayer business, but are woefully understaffed, and as a result, expect to wait quite a while if you want physical help with the rebuild.

Would be interested to know how you get on with the boom rebuild.

Tim

 

[Phil P]

Centrel crop spryers do refurbishing, they’ve done a few round here. Full strip down, shot blast and respray plus any parts of-course. Couldn’t tell you cost though.
I went right through mine myself about two years ago, all new pins, bushes, track rod ends, boom pins and bushes. Basically anything it needed got replaced or serviced including overhauling the pump with new bearings and seals etc.
If your handy with the spanner’s Batemans are pretty easy to work on compared to a lot of other stuff and as has been said the company is probably one of the best you’ll ever deal with.

 

[ollie989898]

Other than the booms. I will have forgotten most stuff that we have done to the last 2 (RB15 & RB35), but as a starter.......Replace King Pins & all those bits that go with them, plus the bushes in the large chassis arms....Or replace. All dampeners, air drier, fit an autolube kit too. While the tank is off for a decent period, check ALL hoses & replace the steering rod bearings and have a bloody good look at the track rod ends on all the steering rams/parts/joints. Check the self levelling valves/actuators. Have a damn good look at the main hydraulic drive hoses from the Lindi pump too....And replace if in doubt, adding in the most recent anti hose chafing plate. Replace the gas accumulators (Not really necessary, but they're not too dear and a barsteward if they fail). Have the tank off the frame & blast/clean up the inevitable corrosion that you will have on the tank frame (Liquid fert). Most importantly, just give all the hydraulic hose routing channels a damn good clean.....It's surprising how much crap builds up in there and wears the hoses.....Especially if you're on abrasive soils, and you wont want to have any of them fail in the field (Not that they do very often, but while its in bits.....). They're just a big Meccano kit really (Richard was VERY clever in that respect....And in many others, obviously). Have done a couple, and am due to do the booms on our VG imminently, but can't decide whether to chop it in and go to Horsch, or carry on with this one (Bought absolutely unloved and abused, even came with a complimentary 9" nail in the front offside rowcrop, a broken X-Frame, cracked tank, Stilson adjusted factory set injectors............ but which is now teched up to the nine's, and mechanically all spot on, but the paintwork is shagged). I must add, that I have generally had Bateman do the King Pins, and the barsteward hoses. Bateman are very good with support......if you want parts, or can DIY after a phone call (If you can get through), or (And its probably the biggest one) if you have a dire emergency - Such as a blown wheel motor hose on a main road (Properly saved my skin there), but having had their machines since the Agillator, I can honestly say that the service guys are second to no other Sprayer business, but are woefully understaffed, and as a result, expect to wait quite a while if you want physical help with the rebuild.

Would be interested to know how you get on with the boom rebuild.

Tim

Sounds like someone should offer you a few days in a farm cottage and some £££ shaped readies to help go through their Bateman one winter!!

 

[Timbo1080]

Sounds like someone should offer you a few days in a farm cottage and some £££ shaped readies to help go through their Bateman one winter!!

Bugger that, it's simple, but a w-h-o-r-e of a job.

 

[melted welly]

Apologies for butting in but What about the jd engines?

Looking at rb35, 2012, 5000hrs.

Have relations who have one same age but on 9000hrs and had engine rebuild at 5500hrs.

Asked the local JD man and he said turbos and head gaskets. The head bolts are the original 4f, not the upgraded 5f, the turbo looks original, but possibly had actuator replaced, actuator moves smoothly enough. All looks fine, plenty power and the engine note is amazing.

Is there a pre-emptive fix?
was the problem not as widespread in the lower stressed sprayers?

how have owners faired with them?

chap at Bateman really helpful, said they’d had engine issues but not as common as in the tractors.

had a jd7730 of 2007 stock which cost us a fortune in engine issues among other things. So a bit wary.

 

[Timbo1080]

Apologies for butting in but What about the jd engines?

Looking at rb35, 2012, 5000hrs.

Have relations who have one same age but on 9000hrs and had engine rebuild at 5500hrs.

Asked the local JD man and he said turbos and head gaskets. The head bolts are the original 4f, not the upgraded 5f, the turbo looks original, but possibly had actuator replaced, actuator moves smoothly enough. All looks fine, plenty power and the engine note is amazing.

Is there a pre-emptive fix?
was the problem not as widespread in the lower stressed sprayers?

how have owners faired with them?

chap at Bateman really helpful, said they’d had engine issues but not as common as in the tractors.

had a jd7730 of 2007 stock which cost us a fortune in engine issues among other things. So a bit wary.

Turbo seals were shagged on our RB35 when it arrived, as was the alternator, but I couldn’t say that was the fault of the Engine specifically, as it had been owned by a company whom clearly was on a mission to destroy it. Engine is beautiful now, and that’s coming from someone that isn’t a JD fan, by a long stretch.

 

[Jack Russell]

Thanks to everyone for their input, I have been meaning to call Bateman but somehow run out of danby the time I remember. As said they are a superb company for backup and how they are built which is why I think a bit of a refurb would set us up for a good few years. Says a lot for the product when it gets this many responses this quickly.

Thanks again.

 

[Jack Russell]

Apologies for butting in but What about the jd engines?

Looking at rb35, 2012, 5000hrs.

Have relations who have one same age but on 9000hrs and had engine rebuild at 5500hrs.

Asked the local JD man and he said turbos and head gaskets. The head bolts are the original 4f, not the upgraded 5f, the turbo looks original, but possibly had actuator replaced, actuator moves smoothly enough. All looks fine, plenty power and the engine note is amazing.

Is there a pre-emptive fix?
was the problem not as widespread in the lower stressed sprayers?

how have owners faired with them?

chap at Bateman really helpful, said they’d had engine issues but not as common as in the tractors.

had a jd7730 of 2007 stock which cost us a fortune in engine issues among other things. So a bit wary.

Ours is a 2012 and at 7000hr. Never had an issue. I think they are so understressed with only really powering pumps and running consistent revs they just seem happy.

 

[Clive]

Apologies for butting in but What about the jd engines?

Looking at rb35, 2012, 5000hrs.

Have relations who have one same age but on 9000hrs and had engine rebuild at 5500hrs.

Asked the local JD man and he said turbos and head gaskets. The head bolts are the original 4f, not the upgraded 5f, the turbo looks original, but possibly had actuator replaced, actuator moves smoothly enough. All looks fine, plenty power and the engine note is amazing.

Is there a pre-emptive fix?
was the problem not as widespread in the lower stressed sprayers?

how have owners faired with them?

chap at Bateman really helpful, said they’d had engine issues but not as common as in the tractors.

had a jd7730 of 2007 stock which cost us a fortune in engine issues among other things. So a bit wary.

as posted earlier ours did 12k hrs before it was sold - engine only had routine service

 

[RAF]

Bateman fitter that comes here just says Bateman’s never die

 

[Clive]

Bateman fitter that comes here just says Bateman’s never die

we has a hi-lo loan machine many years ago that had 26k hrs on in iirc !

 

[Sandy]

Apologies for butting in but What about the jd engines?

Looking at rb35, 2012, 5000hrs.

Have relations who have one same age but on 9000hrs and had engine rebuild at 5500hrs.

Asked the local JD man and he said turbos and head gaskets. The head bolts are the original 4f, not the upgraded 5f, the turbo looks original, but possibly had actuator replaced, actuator moves smoothly enough. All looks fine, plenty power and the engine note is amazing.

Is there a pre-emptive fix?
was the problem not as widespread in the lower stressed sprayers?

how have owners faired with them?

chap at Bateman really helpful, said they’d had engine issues but not as common as in the tractors.

had a jd7730 of 2007 stock which cost us a fortune in engine issues among other things. So a bit wary.

If that’s the 1 I think it is it’s very overpriced they paid £15k more than trade offered