Beef job on its knees

[nelly55]

I read NFU had asked for help for the beef industry and told No.
We want the truth ,not excuses.
Beef has not dropped in my local shops,infact a pub told a beef farmer his supplier had told him beef was getting dearer.
Lets face it someone is making money at this,
Whether it’s brexit,vegan,or any other excuse we need the truth .
The beef industry is on a knife edge .
NFU should be shouting ,we should be protesting.
Our local Tesco is full of Irish beef( nothing wrong with it) but are their supermarkets full of our beef.
If this had been France it would have been a blood bath on the streets.

 

[Farfrae]

Never seen a farmer calling for intervention in the market when prices are high. I thought interventionism was for socialists like me ;-)

Presumably if cattle are not fetching enough to make a profit then inputs need to be reduced? One of the first things that would help would be a fall in land prices (and thus borrowings) and rents. Not seen anyone calling for that either.

Just saying.

 

[Smith31]

It's supply and demand ...reduce numbers prices, will have to go up but most don't want to stop farming.

The less efficient beef farmers need a reality check , some are working for less then the minimum wage, when they could walk into jobs paying 30k a year

 

[Derrick Hughes]

You need a massive Buy British Campaign. You have never had a better time to push it
The public are on your side

 

[Bill the Bass]

The volume of cows that were killed this winter following the drought last year must mean that there’s is loads of beef swimming about the uk waiting to find a home - supply.

Consumption is down by about 5% on last year too which is a bigger worry - demand.

It saddens me that the industry has taken a real kicking from the anti meat agenda and no-one has had either the foresight to see it coming or the wherewithal to address it. The NBA now has a chairman who runs what is, to all intents and purposes, an American feedlot on Lincolnshire, I have nothing against the man and having ever met hi.
am sure he is very capable, but is that the image the industry should by portraying given the current media narrative? I am a member of the NBA but at no point do I recall being asked if he is the right person to lead the organisation at present, but I stand to be corrected.

Worrying times.

 

[Roger Perry]

Better get used to it boys, you have a double whammy of a product that is in falling demand and is priced too high.
I read some discouraging remarks on this forum on a frequent basis about people who choose not to eat your product, unless you can establish more of an export based venue for your beef you are going to see your market shrink..........

 

[Woolless]

Meanwhile, ABP post profits of €170m....

 

[livestock 1]

Meanwhile, ABP post profits of €170m....

If we went out and priced equivalent of a 400 kilo R3L carcass in the supermarkets and added revenue off skins feet offal ect I wonder where we would end up? Obviously not that simple as it doesn’t get sold there but I’ve always wondered just the same

 

[digger64]

Never seen a farmer calling for intervention in the market when prices are high. I thought interventionism was for socialists like me ;-)

Presumably if cattle are not fetching enough to make a profit then inputs need to be reduced? One of the first things that would help would be a fall in land prices (and thus borrowings) and rents. Not seen anyone calling for that either.

Just saying.

ageed but that takes time ,uk ag generally tends to defy gravity then run out of fuel eventually

 

[nelly55]

We’ll see the shouting from big arable set ups when,the subs go,and they have no where in this country to sell grain.Its easy to say get rid of those who work below the wage line,get rid of those living on subs,get rid of half the livestock farmers.I asked for the truth ,why prices falling if everyone wants to import food well get on with it but like everything else in this country sold down the river.As for cutting costs ,name the price of beef in 6 months time infact tell me the price for finished cattle born now.One thing wrong with farming we are price takers not price setters because we won’t stick together to support all the industry.Sad Sad world.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Meanwhile, ABP post profits of €170m....

Plenty of money in meat.

 

[Treg]

You need a massive Buy British Campaign. You have never had a better time to push it
The public are on your side

The farming organisations should of jumped on the back of the news that Brazil is chopping down the rain forest at the rate of a football pitch every 60 seconds, easy target , why are we importing food from these places.
Anyone one seen the satellite photos of Madagascar bleeding? Their red fertile soils being washed away into the ocean because the world wants cheap food.
A recent UN report says we only have 60 harvests left in the world because the soil is disappearing, all these things need highlighting, cheap food comes at a cost.

 

[milkloss]

Never seen a farmer calling for intervention in the market when prices are high. I thought interventionism was for socialists like me ;-)

Presumably if cattle are not fetching enough to make a profit then inputs need to be reduced? One of the first things that would help would be a fall in land prices (and thus borrowings) and rents. Not seen anyone calling for that either.

Just saying.

Race to the bottom eh? What about all those farms being held up by bank borrowings? Not sure the bank will be so keen when the value of their collateral hits the floor.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

It's supply and demand ...reduce numbers prices, will have to go up but most don't want to stop farming.

The less efficient beef farmers need a reality check , some are working for less then the minimum wage, when they could walk into jobs paying 30k a year

Supply and demand on a global scale.
Producing less here won't help anything bar the man who's losing money and gets out.

But as you say, and as my cousin said to me years ago, it'll ever be thus while they pay us enough that those that want to farm can afford to.

 

[Woolless]

If we went out and priced equivalent of a 400 kilo R3L carcass in the supermarkets and added revenue off skins feet offal ect I wonder where we would end up? Obviously not that simple as it doesn’t get sold there but I’ve always wondered just the same

We know that our share of retail price had fallen over the last few years and that was before the latest squeeze on the beef price.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

We know that our share of retail price had fallen over the last few years and that was before the latest squeeze on the beef price.

What's your best price ATM? £3.10?

 

[Treg]

What's your best price ATM? £3.10?

409p/kg I had yesterday.

 

[Woolless]

What's your best price ATM? £3.10?

Beef isn't my specialist subject but last two prices quoted on here were £3.17 and £3.22.

 

[Woolless]

409p/kg I had yesterday.

What was that for, organic AA or similar?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

The farming organisations should of jumped on the back of the news that Brazil is chopping down the rain forest at the rate of a football pitch every 60 seconds, easy target , why are we importing food from these places.
Anyone one seen the satellite photos of Madagascar bleeding? Their red fertile soils being washed away into the ocean because the world wants cheap food.
A recent UN report says we only have 60 harvests left in the world because the soil is disappearing, all these things need highlighting, cheap food comes at a cost.

I cant see that the NFU or any of the organisations do anything to promote British .
If anyone knows different then please show me where