Best machine for grassland overseeding?

[CD2020]

Has anybody used the Palatine PP Rip or similar type machine? If so, are they any good at creating tilth on a grassland field for overseeding? Or would a modern chain Harrow be as good?

Thanks in advance.

 

[CD2020]

Any information would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks

 

[betweenthelines]

The cheapest machines that will create seed to soil contact.

Chain harrow until you can see some brown in the green, broadcast seed and heavy roll.

 

[CD2020]

Any information would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks

Thanks for the info it must take a fair few passes to get it at the correct stage?

 

[E_B]

I don't know about the cultivation aspect of it, but I'll be doing some overseeding with one of these this coming season.

 

[john432]

I don't know about the cultivation aspect of it, but I'll be doing some overseeding with one of these this coming season.

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Overrated machines in my opinion, seen better and more consistent results , with just a set of old discs, and a chainharrow or einbok type and the old vicon to sow the seeds.

 

[E_B]

Overrated machines in my opinion, seen better and more consistent results , with just a set of old discs, and a chainharrow or einbok type and the old vicon to sow the seeds.

Time will tell. Our cultivated reseeds have sat with water since October and will need patching up, with a poor strike despite flat rolling. Headlands established better with more consolidation. Usually get good results with temporary leys into wheat stubbles which this will be fine for, plus hopefully an economic way of getting more bulk into existing thinner swards after cutting.

 

[agri knives]

Overrated machines in my opinion, seen better and more consistent results , with just a set of old discs, and a chainharrow or einbok type and the old vicon to sow the seeds.

I have one of these and it works great in the right conditions . It works in certain conditions where nothing else works. Too much trash left behind is not good for young seedlings to get through. I have got great results in non sprayed off ground . All in all a very handy way to establish grass .

 

[jondear]

Had a guy do 40 acres with a vredo drill back in sep last field drilled 1st October .Looks promising so far nice close rows and leaves a tidy surface so no rolling .It wasn't sprayed off!

 

[le bon paysan]

I've tried DD, I've tried scratch and roll. Ive tried wet and dry ground over seeding. Tried with oats , westerwolds and other grasses and herbs ( chicory etc). Keep your money in your pocket or start afresh!.

 

[le bon paysan]

Best result with an Aitchison with westerwolds fullrate seed. About 25% strike rate!

 

[mf7480]

Plough, powerharrow, roll, drill, roll. Decent seed is £70/acre now, it’s worth making a proper job of it.

I’ve tried the min till/ direct drill route and you just end up re doing it and using a load more seed. I don’t bother drilling twice, seems fine on standard 12.5cm spacings. You can see the lines in this picture

 

[agri knives]

Plough, powerharrow, roll, drill, roll. Decent seed is £70/acre now, it’s worth making a proper job of it.

I’ve tried the min till/ direct drill route and you just end up re doing it and using a load more seed. I don’t bother drilling twice, seems fine on standard 12.5cm spacings. You can see the lines in this picture

In trials done here between 6 systems in the same field on the same day , same seed rate , the Erth came out on top, the ploughed area was the worst. The weather was dry and the Erth sowed plot got the seed into the ground at the right depth for maximum germination. The Erth sowed plot was the first plot that was fit to graze. I sowed with the Erth here in august, I had 300 kg weanlings on it until yesterday, they done no harm after all the rain, if it was ploughed I would have got no grazing off it this autumn with cattle.

 

[CD2020]

Thanks for all the info, I will think about if over the winter

 

[2wheels]

Plough, powerharrow, roll, drill, roll. Decent seed is £70/acre now, it’s worth making a proper job of it.

I’ve tried the min till/ direct drill route and you just end up re doing it and using a load more seed. I don’t bother drilling twice, seems fine on standard 12.5cm spacings. You can see the lines in this picture

someone needs a haircut.

 

[James]

Plough, powerharrow, roll, drill, roll. Decent seed is £70/acre now, it’s worth making a proper job of it.

I’ve tried the min till/ direct drill route and you just end up re doing it and using a load more seed. I don’t bother drilling twice, seems fine on standard 12.5cm spacings. You can see the lines in this picture

Same here except I heavy roll then power harrow

 

[James]

In trials done here between 6 systems in the same field on the same day , same seed rate , the Erth came out on top, the ploughed area was the worst. The weather was dry and the Erth sowed plot got the seed into the ground at the right depth for maximum germination. The Erth sowed plot was the first plot that was fit to graze. I sowed with the Erth here in august, I had 300 kg weanlings on it until yesterday, they done no harm after all the rain, if it was ploughed I would have got no grazing off it this autumn with cattle.

What date in August

 

[agri knives]

What date in August

About the 20th ,

 

[fiat 9090]

In trials done here between 6 systems in the same field on the same day , same seed rate , the Erth came out on top, the ploughed area was the worst. The weather was dry and the Erth sowed plot got the seed into the ground at the right depth for maximum germination. The Erth sowed plot was the first plot that was fit to graze. I sowed with the Erth here in august, I had 300 kg weanlings on it until yesterday, they done no harm after all the rain, if it was ploughed I would have got no grazing off it this autumn with cattle.

Yea but your on gravel

 

[Irish NZ]

I don't know about the cultivation aspect of it, but I'll be doing some overseeding with one of these this coming season.

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Do you mind me asking the cost of one of those. Feel free to pm me