Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
They are not dear enough .
Buying cattle in spring selling in winter
- Thread starter Morganwyn
- Start date
- Location
- Northumberland
Get yourself up to Carlisle weaners sale on a Wednesday.Plenty dairy bred sorts/rougher/plainer stirks.Mostly TB 4. Give them a pour on wormer and a bit of feed and they might still make a decent margin over the grazing season. Stay off the good shapely single suckers types.They will be very expensive and lose you money.
and me dad did , and his dad did , and his dad did !
keep em then, and buy some barley!
They arent about and the supply chain is getting smaller and in fewer hands
Fewer doing it over the last few years when they were cheaper!
No, it’s the opposite. Instead of you owning/ leasing the stock, you rent the grazing to a farmer with their own stock on a short term basis. Exact responsibilities for checking, moving, fencing, water etc would all need to be agreed. You could offer some help, or just take the rent cheque and let him/ her crack on.
Nobody has enough straw this year so they'll put off buying till the spring.
- Location
- sw scotland
Because while your Spring buyer is sitting reading his Sunday paper today, livestock farmers are feeding and bedding cattle with expensive machinery. You are paying for the wintering -and quite rightly
That’s what im currently doing. But im going to have to be careful with inheritance tax. Aswell im leasing the land for £100per acer but if i farm it i can get £230 per acer through the welsh government and be able to apply for grants
Which then means the cattle don't have to quite leave so much
- Location
- leicestershire
What sort of money are those hard sorts making there roughly?
M-J-G
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It's worth keeping in mind the cost of wintering, silage, straw, mucking out, spreading dung and labour are expensive.
I'd count a day in winter to cost 3 times what a days grazing would.
Young cattle can be kept heavily stocked and don't damage wet land, if rotationally grazed with a kg or so of barley gaining around a DLWG of around 0.8 to 1kg can leave a reasonable margin if sold as a forward store in the autumn.
Particularly since you don't need to allocate the cost of silage, straw, machines, buildings.
I'd count a day in winter to cost 3 times what a days grazing would.
Young cattle can be kept heavily stocked and don't damage wet land, if rotationally grazed with a kg or so of barley gaining around a DLWG of around 0.8 to 1kg can leave a reasonable margin if sold as a forward store in the autumn.
Particularly since you don't need to allocate the cost of silage, straw, machines, buildings.
- Location
- Yorkshire
Sounds like you need to buy a dairy farmers heifers graze them for summer then sell them back to him in autumn for a profit of about £100 acre
- Location
- Northumberland
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
You just need a contract rearing agreement drawn up, so that you are ‘farming’ the land, just using other people’s stock.
Out of interest, how do you get £230/ac from the Welsh Government? My (Welsh) BPS is less than £70/ac, and going to drop.
betweenthelines
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- Location
- southwest
If you're prepared to hang around at markets and buy the rough beasts no one else wants (ribs showing, caked in shyte, last lot through the ring etc) and put a shine on them over the summer, you might make a few bob.
More money in rags than silk.
More money in rags than silk.
If you want to farm it for those reasons why can’t you buy sheep?? Buy hoggs in the autumn, or ewes an lambs in spring or.... possibilities endless with sheep an can be bought to leave a margin because of the numbers involved!! If you want to buy cattle in the spring get yourself a astronaut’s helmet because they’ll be stratospheric!!!
- The BPS element was £68.74 per eligible hectare
- The greening element was £53.42 per eligible hectare
- The redistributive element is paid on the first 54 eligible hectares at a rate of £114.89/ha.
That’s good farming!