Calciject no 6 discontinued

[crazy_bull]

We use this to help resurrect 'twin-lamb' ewes, but have just been told it's being discontinued by Norbrook and there is no direct replacement.

Have you guys n girls got any ideas?


cheers

 

[sidjon]

We use Aggers Pro Calcium Drench for the cows now, much better product, but not sure if you can use it sheep.

 

[Cowman338]

Just use the red top no.5 at half dose. Had alot of ewes with twin lamb this year, been using 40ml under skin as recommended by vet.

 

[David.]

Is there anything that replaces No6 for iv use?

 

[Farmer Fin]

Is there anything that replaces No6 for iv use?

Just use number 5

 

[David.]

I suppose when you have killed a couple you get the hang of putting it in slowly enough?

 

[Farmer Fin]

I suppose when you have killed a couple you get the hang of putting it in slowly enough?

If you are doing it with a needle and syringe you will be fine.

 

[Pistonbroke]

Surely if it's twin lamb the dextrose is the important part and there's none in no.5 is there?

 

[Nithsdale]

Surely if it's twin lamb the dextrose is the important part and there's none in no.5 is there?

+1

Red top is not a direct replacement for Blue top.

You need to know what you're treating and whether it's the Calcium or the Glucose in Blue top which is actually curing the downer ewe....

 

[Nithsdale]

Their website isn't working tonight, but I believe Downland have brought out a Blue top equivalent

 

[Bury the Trash]

They didn't though did they?

 

[Nithsdale]

They didn't though did they?

Me?

No, sadly it doesn't seem like they did

I was thinking of posting on this thread anyway - due to a Sunday night emergency downer cow I've used up all my blue top... anyone know which rates of Red Top, Mag and Glucose to mix together to make a bottle of Blue top?

 

[yellowbelly]

.. anyone know which rates of Red Top, Mag and Glucose to mix together to make a bottle of Blue top?

Sadly I didn't pay enough attention in chemistry lessons ................

......even if I had, it's that long ago, I'd have forgotten how to do it by now


You should be able to work it out using 'moles' .............

........ no, not that sort.

Anybody got any kids doing O level chemistry?

 

[Bury the Trash]

:

cant even easily get injectable Dextrose methinks

 

[Nithsdale]

F**k lads I was just wanting an answer like "200ml red top, 150ml glucose and 50ml mag makes a 400ml bottle of Blue top"

 

[Al R]

Quick google reveals that it’s half the strength basically. Double it or half it whichever way round you need. I’ve only ever had red top and use it for sheep, 60-80ml depending on size and how bad they are

 

[Bury the Trash]

Quick google reveals that it’s half the strength basically. Double it or half it whichever way round you need. I’ve only ever had red top and use it for sheep, 60-80ml depending on size and how bad they are
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Yes. But no glucose and the mag. Part will be a quarter at half rate if you swim.
It will be cheaper than the 6 was looks like and to treat straight forward staggers theres magniject 9 .

 

[yellowbelly]

F**k lads I was just wanting an answer like "200ml red top, 150ml glucose and 50ml mag makes a 400ml bottle of Blue top"

Yeah, but to get the right answer you need a bloke with an equation like @Bury the Trash 's guy

 

[neilo]

I've only ever used the Red Top, at 60-80ml/sheep, as above. It has a small amount of Mag in iirc, but if a ewe is down with staggers, I'd give her Magniject instead. I've never felt the need to give glucose to those cases tbh, but would give a prop glycol drench if I did.

I keep a bottle of Magniject and a litre of Ketocol in the fridge, but it might last several years (or many years in the case of the Magniject). Calciject is used a bit more frequently, unfortunately.

 

[Nithsdale]

The thing I liked with Blue top was, it covers all bases.
Pre lambing, if I found a ewe down with TLD, I always got better response from Blue Top than I did any TLD drench