Class Q

[Longneck]

Evening, Just thinking out loud at this stage but we have a smallish shed on the farm (probably 8m x 8m) single story. It is single skin breeze block wall with a timber frame roof sitting on top of the breeze blocks with a corrugated tin roof.

I know the class q rules say it has to be structully sound but how sound does it need to be? Also, if you apply do they always come and inspect or what happens if the 56 days runs out before they get out?

My gut feeling is this shed will not be structally sound enough but wondering if its worth a try.

Thanks in advance..

 

[Kidds]

Evening, Just thinking out loud at this stage but we have a smallish shed on the farm (probably 8m x 8m) single story. It is single skin breeze block wall with a timber frame roof sitting on top of the breeze blocks with a corrugated tin roof.

I know the class q rules say it has to be structully sound but how sound does it need to be? Also, if you apply do they always come and inspect or what happens if the 56 days runs out before they get out?

My gut feeling is this shed will not be structally sound enough but wondering if its worth a try.

Thanks in advance..

Get a structural report done. Far better to prove to them it is structurally sound before they raise the question.

 

[steveR]

Evening, Just thinking out loud at this stage but we have a smallish shed on the farm (probably 8m x 8m) single story. It is single skin breeze block wall with a timber frame roof sitting on top of the breeze blocks with a corrugated tin roof.

I know the class q rules say it has to be structully sound but how sound does it need to be? Also, if you apply do they always come and inspect or what happens if the 56 days runs out before they get out?

My gut feeling is this shed will not be structally sound enough but wondering if its worth a try.

Thanks in advance..

Crack on and get it sorted now then..... But not very big for accommodation??

 

[Longneck]

I’m only guessing the size to be honest, would think it would make a modest 2 bed house.
Yes, think it’s probably worth getting it straight asap.

 

[steveR]

I’m only guessing the size to be honest, would think it would make a modest 2 bed house.
Yes, think it’s probably worth getting it straight asap.

DIY it, or chuck a few quid at the job after Christmas when the building sites start laying folks off and there will be some trades looking for work. Materials have eased back in price a bit too.

 

[renewablejohn]

Evening, Just thinking out loud at this stage but we have a smallish shed on the farm (probably 8m x 8m) single story. It is single skin breeze block wall with a timber frame roof sitting on top of the breeze blocks with a corrugated tin roof.

I know the class q rules say it has to be structully sound but how sound does it need to be? Also, if you apply do they always come and inspect or what happens if the 56 days runs out before they get out?

My gut feeling is this shed will not be structally sound enough but wondering if its worth a try.

Thanks in advance..

Check out the minimum size restriction and minimum ceiling height both of which can catch out the unwary. What annoyed me was the fact it was a local planning restriction which could easily have been missed or at least that is what I was told.

 

[Nick Jones]

Would anyone know of it is a requirement to have a concrete floor for a class q development?

 

[robs1]

Would anyone know of it is a requirement to have a concrete floor for a class q development?

That would be covered by building regs not planning, or do you mean to get it accepted as a part q application? That would make no difference

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Would anyone know of it is a requirement to have a concrete floor for a class q development?

No there is no requirement for the building to have a floor for it to be considered for Class Q. However, if the installation of a floor would be the only way the building would be structurally capable of conversion then they may say the creation of the floor would constitute more development than is necessary for conversion.

 

[Nick Jones]

No there is no requirement for the building to have a floor for it to be considered for Class Q. However, if the installation of a floor would be the only way the building would be structurally capable of conversion then they may say the creation of the floor would constitute more development than is necessary for conversion.

The building is structurally ok without but most houses have concrete floors. Have you experience in appealing these applications on these reasons? In Derbyshire. Thanks

 

[George from SJM Planning]

The building is structurally ok without but most houses have concrete floors. Have you experience in appealing these applications on these reasons? In Derbyshire. Thanks

Appealing? Has your application been refused on the floor issue?

 

[Nick Jones]

Yes.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Yes.

Could you send me the application details so I can read the delegated report?

 

[Nick Jones]

Email address? Thanks

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Email address? Thanks

[email protected]

 

[Nearly]

No there is no requirement for the building to have a floor for it to be considered for Class Q. However, if the installation of a floor would be the only way the building would be structurally capable of conversion then they may say the creation of the floor would constitute more development than is necessary for conversion.

But building control will insist on insulation and dpc under the finished floor anyway.
Councils just hate Part Q.

 

[Nick Jones]

Sent it this evening with a mobile number too. Thank you

 

[Doing it for the kids]

A,ways set to fit a concrete floor before you go in, they never check the depth at planning stages - bit of dirt mixed in makes it look old

 

[snipe]

Any pictures of a class Q finished project. Can understand how it’s done out of a nice stone barn but how do you make a house out of a portal frame building with Concrete panels for walls and a big six roof if you have to use the existing materials?

 

[robs1]

Any pictures of a class Q finished project. Can understand how it’s done out of a nice stone barn but how do you make a house out of a portal frame building with Concrete panels for walls and a big six roof if you have to use the existing materials?

You make changes before you apply, it saves a lot of arguments