glasshouse
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These boarfing schools are good at turning out emotionally stunted and empathy -lacking boys who are a pain
Do the English just love a Toff?
- Thread starter kfpben
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No one has commented on the massive creeping privatisation, often by foreign companies of state secondary schools that has been happening over the last 10 to 15 years. Some seem to work OK, but many are closing their sixth forms completely, limiting the subjects available or employing non specialist teachers in order to boost profits by reducing overheads.
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
That’s total rubbish what comes out is a reflection of what goes in there’s no difference between public schools and inner city comprehensive schools in that respect. If the parents are rubbish generally so will the children be.
State education, at least in Scotland, has deteriorated massively in the last 30 years.
And Scotland being Scotland, is intent on employing teachers who have been poorly educated in the state system, and so the downward spiral continues.
Scottish education would benefit tremendously if there was a concerted effort to employ more teachers who had been educated at the many good Grammar and Private Schools in the rest of the UK - regardless of where they have gained their teaching qualifications.
Exactly the same would apply to Comprehensive Schools all over the UK. School pupils need role models. And teachers who can barely read and write English, don't dress formally and likely vote Lib/Dem
are not role models.
And Scotland being Scotland, is intent on employing teachers who have been poorly educated in the state system, and so the downward spiral continues.
Scottish education would benefit tremendously if there was a concerted effort to employ more teachers who had been educated at the many good Grammar and Private Schools in the rest of the UK - regardless of where they have gained their teaching qualifications.
Exactly the same would apply to Comprehensive Schools all over the UK. School pupils need role models. And teachers who can barely read and write English, don't dress formally and likely vote Lib/Dem
are not role models.glasshouse
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- lothians
Bollox
All the stories are out now about the abuse and bullying endemic at these schools
Parents are out of the picture till end of term.
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
As someone who has has kids at these schools for the last 13 years I will tell you that you really don’t know what you’re talking about. Although obviously if you’ve read about it then it’s true. The days of Tom Brown’s schooldays are long gone.
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- Hereford
You can't generally beat private education .
Firstly the classes are smaller
Secondly they teach respect
Thirdly they teach you
Fourthly they teach you what to do with your education
Lastly you make connections which will last your lifetime and take you places .
In my humble opinion !
Firstly the classes are smaller
Secondly they teach respect
Thirdly they teach you
Fourthly they teach you what to do with your education
Lastly you make connections which will last your lifetime and take you places .
In my humble opinion !
I thought it was law that all teachers must vote Lib Dem? The party who are neither liberal or democratic. Sums it up quite nicely.State education, at least in Scotland, has deteriorated massively in the last 30 years.
And Scotland being Scotland, is intent on employing teachers who have been poorly educated in the state system, and so the downward spiral continues.
Scottish education would benefit tremendously if there was a concerted effort to employ more teachers who had been educated at the many good Grammar and Private Schools in the rest of the UK - regardless of where they have gained their teaching qualifications.
Exactly the same would apply to Comprehensive Schools all over the UK. School pupils need role models. And teachers who can barely read and write English, don't dress formally and likely vote Lib/Dem
glasshouse
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- lothians
Dream on
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
In the words of Mark Twain ‘never argue with stupid people they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.’ So I won’t.
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- Fife
I missed out on the connections bit. But the rest holds true. My son will always be privately educated.
glasshouse
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- lothians
So you think sending a child away to school aged 8 or 9 is ok?
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- Fife
Yes
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
Ours went at 5 our situation meant there wasn't another option.. I went at 11 and told my Dad I wouldn't ever send a child away to school but where we were living meant either a 80 mile round trip or boarding. As i said schools have changed and the fact that ours had never been to a day school meant they thought all schools were like their school. I honestly feel incredibly jealous that I didn't have the schooling they have had. Obviously everyone should be proud of their kids and I genuinely am proud of mine they really enjoyed their schooling did well academically and at sport and have grown into very pleasant young people. Being sent away gives them responsibility and independence something most children would never get. From the age of 10 they were able to travel on their own to the U.K and having friends around the world means they have been many places that kids their age would never get a chance to visit. People like Boris Johnson or David Cameron would be Gits whether they went to Branston Comprehensive School or to Eton the fact that they went to Eton just gives them a head start in life something most people would like for their kids.
I’d add that my two have very good accents but they are the children of two working farmers who have worked very hard to get where they are and are very much aware of the sacrifices their parents have made and take nothing for granted.
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beefandsleep
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- Staffordshire
It’s mostly foreign students who board these days, the majority are day pupils. Some children choose to board when studying for GCSE’s.
Lazy Sod
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- Warminster Wiltshire
Grammar schools were alright if you were lucky enough to go to one. Having failed the 11 plus exam, I went to a secondary modern school where we all left at 15 with no qualifications. We were considered to thick to be taught languages, we weren't even given homework.
Wanting at the time to follow a career other than farming that required O levels for entry, I went to a further education college and got them. They said that they would willingly have had me back for the A level course. I might well have gone on to university if I had not decided by then to go into farming instead. The proportion of children going to university in the early sixties was much smaller than today.
I know someone whose secondary modern became a comprehensive whilst they were there, so doors were opened for him. He went on to be a vet. Running state educated children through the race to sort them into sheep and goats at 11 was grossly unjust.
I've always loved girls with posh accents, the trouble was they were always out of my league.
Wanting at the time to follow a career other than farming that required O levels for entry, I went to a further education college and got them. They said that they would willingly have had me back for the A level course. I might well have gone on to university if I had not decided by then to go into farming instead. The proportion of children going to university in the early sixties was much smaller than today.
I know someone whose secondary modern became a comprehensive whilst they were there, so doors were opened for him. He went on to be a vet. Running state educated children through the race to sort them into sheep and goats at 11 was grossly unjust.
I've always loved girls with posh accents, the trouble was they were always out of my league.
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primmiemoo
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- Devon
Or that Chinese business is buying up Independents.
Here's a radical idea. Actually invest, incredible amounts, in improving state education for all ages and all backgrounds - actively seeking to prevent people slipping through. If toffs still want to chance it they can. Other countries manage it. But no, I forgot, we live in the past here
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Yes