Do the English just love a Toff?

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
Personally, I would have only ever considered public school for my children if they were having problems at their state school. Fortunately it was never an issue. :)
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
The school my kids were at employed an ex Scottish rugby player as head of rugby. He was going round all the boarding houses to get to know the kids when he met my son he got his life story about how his parents had sent him and his sister away to school at the age of five etc. ‘Why would they send you away so young?’the teacher asked. ‘Because they hated us’ replied my Son.
 
You can't generally beat private education .
Firstly the classes are smaller
Secondly they teach respect
Thirdly they teach you
Fourthly they teach you what to do with your education
Lastly you make connections which will last your lifetime and take you places .
In my humble opinion !
I’ve met a few obnoxious gits who’ve been privately educated but generally I’d agree, those who have had a private education have better manners/respect.............that might just be because they’ve come from better family backgrounds as privately educated kids don’t mhave a complete monopoly on manners
 

Ashtree

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You can't generally beat private education .
Firstly the classes are smaller
Secondly they teach respect
Thirdly they teach you
Fourthly they teach you what to do with your education
Lastly you make connections which will last your lifetime and take you places .
In my humble opinion !


Well f**k me pink, they might well teach respect, but quite a percentage of the brats, sure don‘t take in the lessons.
 

glasshouse

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lothians
Ours went at 5 our situation meant there wasn't another option.. I went at 11 and told my Dad I wouldn't ever send a child away to school but where we were living meant either a 80 mile round trip or boarding. As i said schools have changed and the fact that ours had never been to a day school meant they thought all schools were like their school. I honestly feel incredibly jealous that I didn't have the schooling they have had. Obviously everyone should be proud of their kids and I genuinely am proud of mine they really enjoyed their schooling did well academically and at sport and have grown into very pleasant young people. Being sent away gives them responsibility and independence something most children would never get. From the age of 10 they were able to travel on their own to the U.K and having friends around the world means they have been many places that kids their age would never get a chance to visit. People like Boris Johnson or David Cameron would be Gits whether they went to Branston Comprehensive School or to Eton the fact that they went to Eton just gives them a head start in life something most people would like for their kids.
I’d add that my two have very good accents but they are the children of two working farmers who have worked very hard to get where they are and are very much aware of the sacrifices their parents have made and take nothing for granted.
Thats hardly a normal situation.
Ours went at 5 our situation meant there wasn't another option.. I went at 11 and told my Dad I wouldn't ever send a child away to school but where we were living meant either a 80 mile round trip or boarding. As i said schools have changed and the fact that ours had never been to a day school meant they thought all schools were like their school. I honestly feel incredibly jealous that I didn't have the schooling they have had. Obviously everyone should be proud of their kids and I genuinely am proud of mine they really enjoyed their schooling did well academically and at sport and have grown into very pleasant young people. Being sent away gives them responsibility and independence something most children would never get. From the age of 10 they were able to travel on their own to the U.K and having friends around the world means they have been many places that kids their age would never get a chance to visit. People like Boris Johnson or David Cameron would be Gits whether they went to Branston Comprehensive School or to Eton the fact that they went to Eton just gives them a head start in life something most people would like for their kids.
I’d add that my two have very good accents but they are the children of two working farmers who have worked very hard to get where they are and are very much aware of the sacrifices their parents have made and take nothing for granted.
i dont think you can compare africa to the uk.
Were the fees £50k per yr?
 

glasshouse

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lothians
Ours went at 5 our situation meant there wasn't another option.. I went at 11 and told my Dad I wouldn't ever send a child away to school but where we were living meant either a 80 mile round trip or boarding. As i said schools have changed and the fact that ours had never been to a day school meant they thought all schools were like their school. I honestly feel incredibly jealous that I didn't have the schooling they have had. Obviously everyone should be proud of their kids and I genuinely am proud of mine they really enjoyed their schooling did well academically and at sport and have grown into very pleasant young people. Being sent away gives them responsibility and independence something most children would never get. From the age of 10 they were able to travel on their own to the U.K and having friends around the world means they have been many places that kids their age would never get a chance to visit. People like Boris Johnson or David Cameron would be Gits whether they went to Branston Comprehensive School or to Eton the fact that they went to Eton just gives them a head start in life something most people would like for their kids.
I’d add that my two have very good accents but they are the children of two working farmers who have worked very hard to get where they are and are very much aware of the sacrifices their parents have made and take nothing for granted.
Five?
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
Thats hardly a normal situation.

i dont think you can compare africa to the uk.
Were the fees £50k per yr?
Prep school in Kenya starts at six our two went at five as a child who we had been home schooling with went so both of them had an extra year. Then they came to school in the UK at the age of 13 it was actually cheaper in the UK for secondary as both got scholarships. No school in the UK that I know of has fees of £50k a year yet however it's not cheap in my opinion though it's an investment in your children's future. If they hadn't enjoyed it we would have looked for another option but they did enjoy it. Schools be it private or state can mould their pupils a bit but the truth of it is children are a reflection of their parents. I've met plenty of unpleasant parents and kids who have been privately educated and I've met plenty of obnoxious people who went to state schools. It's not the schools generally it's what goes in them. What I will say is though is there's a much greater chance of a child at a state school going off the rails than one at a private school.
 
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Hfd Cattle

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Hereford
I’ve met a few obnoxious gits who’ve been privately educated but generally I’d agree, those who have had a private education have better manners/respect.............that might just be because they’ve come from better family backgrounds as privately educated kids don’t mhave a complete monopoly on manners
I’ve met a few obnoxious gits who’ve been privately educated but generally I’d agree, those who have had a private education have better manners/respect.............that might just be because they’ve come from better family backgrounds as privately educated kids don’t mhave a complete monopoly on manners
My lad went to the local private school and we soon found out the division in the school between the ones who were their because their 'daddy' was wealthy and the ones who were there because of the quality of the education . My lad was there because of the latter but I will say that even the 'spoilt brats' that have been talked about in earlier posts (not by you ) knew how to conduct themselves properly in general . He went on to Cirencester and the same was evident there . It was a very expensive exercise and a real struggle but in hindsight I would not have done anything different .
Unfortunately the problem with the 'obnoxious gits ' is usually the parenting even before the kids get to school ! I thought that at the school where my lad went they did a good job of getting the 'obnoxious' kids to be a bit more level headed by the time they left ......but with some it would have been an impossible task .
 

jellybean

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N.Devon
Sometimes there is no option, a bit like @Lowland1 we put our son into boarding school at age 7 simply because we had to. We had just bought our first farm, only 40 acres and I was away from home about 6 months of the year fencing, anywhere from Scotland to Italy. My wife was working as a vet at that time so we just didn't have the time to do school runs etc. He was also bored to death at local school because it was all too easy and staff didn't have time or resources to keep him on the go. At times we thought we were a bit hard to do all that but as others have said it gives them the confidence and ability to be at ease with people from all backgrounds.
He now has a good career and 3 kids of his own all being privately educated so the experience could not have been that bad for him. Some children however I would imagine would have found boarding school at an early age totally traumatic.
 

glasshouse

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lothians
Obviously if you live in the outback then boarding is the only option for senior school, but sending a child away to school aged five is nothing short of cruelty.
A local farmer told me it was simply cheap babysitting in his day and allowed parents to carry on their social life without interuption.
 
Obviously if you live in the outback then boarding is the only option for senior school, but sending a child away to school aged five is nothing short of cruelty.
A local farmer told me it was simply cheap babysitting in his day and allowed parents to carry on their social life without interuption.
Karma may bite them in the ass one day, when the oldies get to the stage they need a bit of help they might get shoved in a care home off the way so the young uns can get on with their lives
 

Hooby Farmer

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roe valley
I was only having this discussion with my missus on Sunday evening. I am all for it, looking back I probably would have benefited from it. Where herself is completely anti the very idea of it. Our closest private school is over 2 hours away so it's probably not going to happen. Several of my cousins went to private school, there is no denying their achievements, they are either surgeons, professors, in politics,or in senior management of large multi national firms. The majority of them are still in their 30s. Those who went to state schools work very normal average jobs and I wouldn't say they are any more or less intelligent than the others.
 

glasshouse

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I was only having this discussion with my missus on Sunday evening. I am all for it, looking back I probably would have benefited from it. Where herself is completely anti the very idea of it. Our closest private school is over 2 hours away so it's probably not going to happen. Several of my cousins went to private school, there is no denying their achievements, they are either surgeons, professors, in politics,or in senior management of large multi national firms. The majority of them are still in their 30s. Those who went to state schools work very normal average jobs and I wouldn't say they are any more or less intelligent than the others.
I know plenty who went to very posh schools who are farmworkers, plumbers, builders etc now.
Probably earning a good living
 

beefandsleep

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Staffordshire
Several of my cousins went to private school, there is no denying their achievements, they are either surgeons, professors, in politics,or in senior management of large multi national firms. The majority of them are still in their 30s. Those who went to state schools work very normal average jobs and I wouldn't say they are any more or less intelligent than the others.

And that’s the top and bottom of it. You can only make this decision for them once, there are no do overs as Americans say. So you try to give them the very best opportunities you can to succeed in life.
Having an idealogical objection to private schooling your own children makes absolutely no sense, especially if your state options are as diabolical as they are for me here in N Staffs.
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
The modern system with selective grammer schools and non grammer schools cannot be beaten
the kid from the non selective school do better than equivalent kids in an area with non selective system
South Lincolnshire has some of the best grammar schools in the country Boston, Sleaford, Bourne and Grantham to name some not everyone is is their catchment area so they have to make other plans.
 

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