Does autosteer work on rough ground?

[Grass And Grain]

Quick question folks.

We usually try to drill straight on to ploughed ground using a single pass with combi drill. Most of it is medium bodied land and tractor drives smoothly over top of it. However, some of it ploughs up like sides of bacon and so drilling tractor can be rocking from side to side as it drives over the heavy lumps.

Question is, how well will autosteer cope (or not) with this?

 

[alomy75]

Be fine if you go steady. You’ll struggle more if it’s a steering wheel motor type as it won’t keep up…a plumbed in, properly set up greenstar will react as quick (or quicker) than any driver

 

[Phil P]

We drill straight behind the plough on most of our ground, no issues whatsoever keeping straight. Used to only use a steering wheel motor before going to an intergrated system and that managed fine as well. Just need to go steady if it’s really rough. Main thing is the system has a tcm (terrain compensation module) built in so it compensates fo lean angle.

No problem on this stuff.

 

[davidroberts30]

No issues with agopen

 

[Steevo]

Larger tyres will help a lot too.

 

[KB6930]

Front press with shatter boards helps here as you're levelling it out more but never had any issues on ploughing I've seen it get a bit wiggly spreading fert at 16k on rough stuff but no issues with the combi

 

[clbarclay]

AgOpenGPS seems more comfortable driving over rough ground than I am.

I did have issue with a Trimble system about decade ago, but that was mainly due to perculiar conditions and wear in drawbar pivots causing the hitch loads to constantly snatch side to side. I just changed the angle I was working at to be closer to the direction of moling and the autosteer was happy again.

 

[Grass And Grain]

Thanks for replies everyone. Has given me a good idea of what to expect. It's slow going with the power harrow on the heavy stuff.

 

[andyinv]

Thanks for replies everyone. Has given me a good idea of what to expect. It's slow going with the power harrow on the heavy stuff.

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7392341341692251424

CVX 175, 4m power harrow across ploughed ground.

 

[SJamieson]

*along* ploughed ground.

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7392341341692251424

CVX 175, 4m power harrow across ploughed ground.

 

[Grass And Grain]

Only thing is our heavy land doesn't plough a continuous sort of furrow along the field. It comes up in big slabs, then a gap of 15", then another big slab of soil. Will make a mental note this next few weeks as to how much the tractor gets thrown about.

 

[clbarclay]

Best thing I could recommend in that situation was my granddad's solution to ride comfort. A big articulated tractor, which always had dual wheels on it.

First pass over the ploughing was still always done with the furrows, rather than across them.

 

[KB6930]

Only thing is our heavy land doesn't plough a continuous sort of furrow along the field. It comes up in big slabs, then a gap of 15", then another big slab of soil. Will make a mental note this next few weeks as to how much the tractor gets thrown about.

It will be absolutely fine with a bit of tuning of aggressiveness.

Only thing ours struggles on is going fast coming of one side slope through a gully and straight onto another

 

[Steevo]

Only thing is our heavy land doesn't plough a continuous sort of furrow along the field. It comes up in big slabs, then a gap of 15", then another big slab of soil. Will make a mental note this next few weeks as to how much the tractor gets thrown about.

Sounds like the perfect opportunity to upgrade to a Quadtrac!

 

[Grass And Grain]

Sounds like the perfect opportunity to upgrade to a Quadtrac!

or park the plough and buy a Trio.

It will be absolutely fine with a bit of tuning of aggressiveness.

Only thing ours struggles on is going fast coming of one side slope through a gully and straight onto another

Thanks. That seems to be the consensus.

 

[KB6930]

or park the plough and buy a Trio.

Thanks. That seems to be the consensus.

We drill 11/1200 acres a year with a 4m in a lot of different conditions and it's all fine . I certainly wouldn't be without a good front press but the JD system is very good at what it does

 

[Grass And Grain]

We drill 11/1200 acres a year with a 4m in a lot of different conditions and it's all fine . I certainly wouldn't be without a good front press but the JD system is very good at what it does

We'll be getting autosteer anyway, just wondered how it coped in such situations. Only got about 40 acres of that soil type, and actually thinking about it those patches sometimes get power harrowed first anyway before the combi pass, although if wet we try to het away with a single pass.

Will probably use agopengps plumbed into a valve.

 

[e3120]

It will be absolutely fine with a bit of tuning of aggressiveness.

Only thing ours struggles on is going fast coming of one side slope through a gully and straight onto another

Don't think any can cope with that. They just can't see that the camber is going to quickly change so can't be prepared like a human.

 

[KB6930]

Don't think any can cope with that. They just can't see that the camber is going to quickly change so can't be prepared like a human.

Exactly but as I said with a bit of fiddling with settings you can get them to go pretty well on the level ish stuff