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Cowgirl

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Livestock Farmer
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Ayrshire
My daughter is a veterinary student at Edinburgh. She has just sent me this.
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Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Strange that someone decided to debate beef consumption.

I would have thought that alcohol production and consumption would be a more clear cut problem and worthy of debate. Uses lots of land in monoculture spring barley (particularly in Scotland), is of little nutritional benefit, gives off CO2 in its fermentation, is generally bad for health and is expensive.

Makes beef look good.
 

Cowgirl

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Ayrshire
Strange that someone decided to debate beef consumption.

I would have thought that alcohol production and consumption would be a more clear cut problem and worthy of debate. Uses lots of land in monoculture spring barley (particularly in Scotland), is of little nutritional benefit, gives off CO2 in its fermentation, is generally bad for health and is expensive.

Makes beef look good.
That’s a good point - must tell my daughter!
 

Farmer Fin

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Arable Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
Strange that someone decided to debate beef consumption.

I would have thought that alcohol production and consumption would be a more clear cut problem and worthy of debate. Uses lots of land in monoculture spring barley (particularly in Scotland), is of little nutritional benefit, gives off CO2 in its fermentation, is generally bad for health and is expensive.

Makes beef look good.
shh don’t tell them that! We’d be fecked up here as all we can grow is spring barley for malt and grass for beef.

(p.s the expensive bit of whisky is due to the massive tax - government likes this revenue an awful lot!)
 

Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
shh don’t tell them that! We’d be fecked up here as all we can grow is spring barley for malt and grass for beef.

(p.s the expensive bit of whisky is due to the massive tax - government likes this revenue an awful lot!)
Don't worry, they'll overlook alcohol because they won't want to give it up.

Just like vegans suggest everyone gives up beef to save the planet, yet jump on a plane to go in their hollibobs.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
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From the NFU Scotland Facebook feed.


Tonight, a few of the Edinburgh Agriculture students attended a meeting of the Edinburgh University Students Association (EUSA) where one of the motions being presented was to ‘Cease the sale of all beef products in Student Association Cafes and Restaurants’. We were all allowed into the room before most of us were then asked to leave and we were unable to vote or contribute to the debate. Those of us who were able to remain in the room listened to a debate which was, at the best of times ill-informed. In the photo you will see most of the points which were put forward by the proposer of the motion. The student president put forward an amendment to the motion which called for a feasibility audit - this would assess the impact this decision would have on uni income, reputation and how many students it would affect as well as potentially a referendum on the issue. That amendment was passed by overwhelming majority in the room. When the proposer was given a chance to respond, all she could say was that the amendment would ‘slow down’ progress of her motion and didn’t seem to care about the affect this motion, if passed would do to the uni or it’s students and in her opening sentence also said that she was not proposing to take away student choice, even though that is exactly what this motion would do!

Tonight more than anything has shown that these people no longer care about the facts and we got the impression that this motion would be used as a fashion statement to keep up with universities such as Cambridge and Goldsmiths!

#backbritishfarming #buylocal #meatwithintegrity #standupforfarming

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Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
Currently one of the Oxford colleges has a protest, where the students are demanding that the Endowment fund divests itself of its £8 million investments in fossil fuel companies.
The Bursar who hold the strings has offered to go far further in tackling climate change, which would make a real difference, no matter how small, to CO2 production. He has offered, to turn off the gas fired central heating, if the student council will vote for it :):):)
 

Cowgirl

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Ayrshire
If they were members of the SU, on what pretext were they able to deny them the right to attend, contribute and vote?
Sounds like a stitch up to me.
My daughter was fairly convinced that it was. No students attending the meeting were allowed to challenge the "statistics" quoted, unfortunately.
 

Cowgirl

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Ayrshire
Currently one of the Oxford colleges has a protest, where the students are demanding that the Endowment fund divests itself of its £8 million investments in fossil fuel companies.
The Bursar who hold the strings has offered to go far further in tackling climate change, which would make a real difference, no matter how small, to CO2 production. He has offered, to turn off the gas fired central heating, if the student council will vote for it :):):)
Do you know which college? Or was that a joke?
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
My daughter was fairly convinced that it was. No students attending the meeting were allowed to challenge the "statistics" quoted, unfortunately.

The person forwarding the motion is a vegan activist using totally erroneous figure of 51% GHG's from the 2014 documentary 'Cowspiracy'. I have left a post on her FB page outlining this and that the correct fig should be in the region of 8-10%. :banghead:
 

melted welly

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Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
Strange that someone decided to debate beef consumption.

I would have thought that alcohol production and consumption would be a more clear cut problem and worthy of debate. Uses lots of land in monoculture spring barley (particularly in Scotland), is of little nutritional benefit, gives off CO2 in its fermentation, is generally bad for health and is expensive.

Makes beef look good.

some of the distilleries clubbed together and took over a plant that turned the draff into feed pellets. They then installed a multi million pound biomass power plant (from Denmark) to “burn” the draff to produce electricity to sell back to the distilleries. only thing is, the draff comes out soaking wet and theyre importing thousands of tonnes of timber from North America to burn alongside it (can’t get the consistency from uk apparently), 40% of power produced goes on drying the draff, and if they were to burn only timber, it’s far more efficient.

so instead of feeding their waste to livestock to produce food, they have an enormous plant build from steel and concrete that “burns” the product, alongside imported timber, at 50-60% efficiency, to produce electricity to sell back to themselves. If it weren’t for income from some carbon trading scheme (can’t remember details) it would be financially unviable.

these pointless “woke“ student gestures are a load of short sighted shite

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No hope if uni's going down the route of obtaining false evidence and promoting an opinion without proper debate. Shocking. There is no room for activists in these professional institutions. These people are the leaders of the future. Someone is obv funding this I think worth a delve on who. Lets hope some of the funders withdrawal future handouts. Not sure how a agriculture college can ban beef perhaps worth a court case.
 

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