FG2 sheep netting fencing on Mid tier stewardship

[tepapa]

is that 8/80/15 ?

I'd say it is. There's only one kink per square. 22 would have 1 then 2 per square.

 

[upnortheast]

Yep

 

[ploughman1963]

The rule book doesn't allow leccy poles, which is daft, most will last far longer

Ive looked hard and I cant find where posts cut from telegraph poles are excluded. Currently awaiting official answer / clarification

 

[Norfolk Hill Farmer]

Ive looked hard and I cant find where posts cut from telegraph poles are excluded. Currently awaiting official answer / clarification

Did you get a clarification ?

 

[Farmer_Joe]

I just used what I had, just std stuff as said they can’t tell how long they are once in!

Send em pics with locations then got payment fairly simple

 

[ploughman1963]

Did you get a clarification ?

Not yet

 

[ploughman1963]

Did you get a clarification ?

Spoken to several agents since who have handled many many applications and they all say I am worrying far too much- but it’s not their money at risk

 

[Overby]

If fencing near anew hedge, put the fence at least 1.2 m away from the hedge line.... presumably fencing near existing hedges has to be 1.2m from the perceived middle of the hedge?

 

[green fingers]

Does anyone know if you are allowed to use box strainer assembly instead of angle stainer under FG2?

 

[tepapa]

Does anyone know if you are allowed to use box strainer assembly instead of angle stainer under FG2?

Yes absolutely fine, I'd question why you'd want to though

 

[Kam]

Does anyone know if you are allowed to use box strainer assembly instead of angle stainer under FG2?

This is the reply I got from the RPA when I enquired about using box strainers:



"We apologise for the time it has taken for a response.

Countryside stewardship unfortunately will not let you use box strainers.

You must follow the specifications of 'Mortice struts into the straining post at an angle of no more than 45 degrees' even though you are stating it to be a higher spec unfortunately the requirements do not accept this if FG2 posts are built with a box strut method.

You must follow the guidance on the agreement and GOV.Uk website."



It took about 5 weeks to get this reply despite chasing on multiple occasions. We had already completed getting on for 2000m using box strainers because they took so bloody long to reply on a time sensitive job.

 

[tepapa]

This is the reply I got from the RPA when I enquired about using box strainers:



"We apologise for the time it has taken for a response.

Countryside stewardship unfortunately will not let you use box strainers.

You must follow the specifications of 'Mortice struts into the straining post at an angle of no more than 45 degrees' even though you are stating it to be a higher spec unfortunately the requirements do not accept this if FG2 posts are built with a box strut method.

You must follow the guidance on the agreement and GOV.Uk website."



It took about 5 weeks to get this reply despite chasing on multiple occasions. We had already completed getting on for 2000m using box strainers prior to getting the above reply.

That's frightening

 

[tepapa]

This is the reply I got from the RPA when I enquired about using box strainers:



"We apologise for the time it has taken for a response.

Countryside stewardship unfortunately will not let you use box strainers.

You must follow the specifications of 'Mortice struts into the straining post at an angle of no more than 45 degrees' even though you are stating it to be a higher spec unfortunately the requirements do not accept this if FG2 posts are built with a box strut method.

You must follow the guidance on the agreement and GOV.Uk website."



It took about 5 weeks to get this reply despite chasing on multiple occasions. We had already completed getting on for 2000m using box strainers because they took so bloody long to reply on a time sensitive job.

I'll have to read up the detail on this but are they saying it does not meet spec as it's over 45°'s ?

The horizontal strut to form the box will be at 0° and there fore less than 45°'s

 

[Kernowkid]

I got told by someone’s who’s put up a lot of Grant spec fencing this week that box strainers are fine. He puts a 5 inch wooden post inside of it. Had a rpa inspector sign some off after a visit

 

[slackjawedyokel]

I’m looking at putting up quite a lot of FG2 fencing; probably going to do a proper job so I’ll not have to revisit it so the £7.47/m will barely pay for materials (but certainly nice to have!).

The Requirements include:

I’ve just bought some nice heavy sleepers for £30ea:

Obviously they are not New new as per the spec, and they are likely some kind of hardwood not softwood as specd.

I can also get creosoted new softwood ‘sleepers’ for £45ea -my guess is that they won’t last as long.

Should I be playing safe and buying a more expensive, possibly inferior product or just go with the sleepers?

Thanks!

 

[Blue.]

I’m looking at putting up quite a lot of FG2 fencing; probably going to do a proper job so I’ll not have to revisit it so the £7.47/m will barely pay for materials (but certainly nice to have!).

The Requirements include:
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I’ve just bought some nice heavy sleepers for £30ea:
View attachment 1142195
Obviously they are not New new as per the spec, and they are likely some kind of hardwood not softwood as specd.

I can also get creosoted new softwood ‘sleepers’ for £45ea -my guess is that they won’t last as long.

Should I be playing safe and buying a more expensive, possibly inferior product or just go with the sleepers?

Thanks!

Buy a few softwood sleepers purely for the receipt.

 

[ploughman1963]

I am lucky that we buy enough new creosoted straining posts for customers that we therefore have plenty of receipts to show that whatever I put in the ground can be shown to be new.

 

[ploughman1963]

I’m looking at putting up quite a lot of FG2 fencing; probably going to do a proper job so I’ll not have to revisit it so the £7.47/m will barely pay for materials (but certainly nice to have!).

The Requirements include:
View attachment 1142194
I’ve just bought some nice heavy sleepers for £30ea:
View attachment 1142195
Obviously they are not New new as per the spec, and they are likely some kind of hardwood not softwood as specd.

I can also get creosoted new softwood ‘sleepers’ for £45ea -my guess is that they won’t last as long.

Should I be playing safe and buying a more expensive, possibly inferior product or just go with the sleepers?

Thanks!

Below is part of the email I got from RPA querying if we could use telegraph poles for strainers and gateposts. It appears to say you can - but then others say the materials need to be new. My posts get a splash of creosote and hopefully look new in the photos and then invoices to back it up as above


"FG12/FG2 can telegraph poles be used for both options, yes as long as it meets what is required under S2 in the agreement, where it goes in to details regarding the wood."

 

[Kam]

I'll have to read up the detail on this but are they saying it does not meet spec as it's over 45°'s ?

The horizontal strut to form the box will be at 0° and there fore less than 45°'s

That was part of our argument that the angle was less than 45° but still fell on deaf ears. All of mine was completed with box strainers in the end. Claim going in soon. Fingers crossed

 

[Nemo]

Below is part of the email I got from RPA querying if we could use telegraph poles for strainers and gateposts. It appears to say you can - but then others say the materials need to be new. My posts get a splash of creosote and hopefully look new in the photos and then invoices to back it up as above

That was part of our argument that the angle was less than 45° but still fell on deaf ears. All of mine was completed with box strainers in the end. Claim going in soon. Fingers crossed

"FG12/FG2 can telegraph poles be used for both options, yes as long as it meets what is required under S2 in the agreement, where it goes in to details regarding the wood."

That was part of our argument that the angle was less than 45° but still fell on deaf ears. All of mine was completed with box strainers in the end. Claim going in soon. Fingers crossed

We used box strainers and my claim has been rejected. I’ve been told I have to replace them with struts which is going to be a tight ball ache with an erected fence!