- Location
- Northumberland
Did they come and inspect them or was it rejected on the photos you sent in?
FG2 sheep netting fencing on Mid tier stewardship
- Thread starter Devonian
- Start date
Photos. I’m appealing it as the forestry standard references box strainers and our ground is very wet.
Let us know the outcome please as we've got a fair bit to do
Kernowkid
Member
What a pain in the arse. We’ve done some of ours recently, been using box barriers at start and end of runs but banged a big wooden post inside and strutted. Do you think they’d accept that?
- Location
- Northumberland
The FG1 and FG2 specs are a bit screwey. They specify ‘new softwood’ when recycled railway sleepers would last MUCH longer (plus new creosoted sleeper-size softwood is £45 as opposed to £29 for good sleepers). Also their minimum spec for strainers (100x100mm) is tiny.
- Location
- North Wales
I wouldn't trust the new specs updated this year. If you read them properly, there's a lot of set sizes i.e. a post will be 125mm for example instead of saying a minimum of 125mm. That's just a made up example but the wording is quite clear. They've removed the "at least" bit from the previous spec. With a keen inspector most fences constructed properly would fail to meet spec even though they could be built exceptionally well.
- Location
- North Wales
Would @Nemo and @Kam contact the Association of Fencing industries with the correspondence received from ths RPA and permission to look into it? They may not be able to help directly unless it was installed by a contractor who is an afi member. They may not be able to help directly but are unable to look for a resolution to this matter with the RPA without evidence of how the RPA have Interpreted their spec.
They have a contact form on their website .
They confirmed today that a strut inside the box will work.
Twice as strong then
Tubbylew
Member
- Location
- Herefordshire
Thats absolutley crackers, I thought the british standard was updated to get over this nonsense.
- Location
- North Wales
Nothing in the British standard 1722/2/2020 to exclude box struts. It was written in such a way that in theory you can build strainers anyway you like, AS LONG as they hold and the wire stays tight, so as not to exclude any method of construction and allow for future improvements or new styles.
But remember the standard the fence needs to be built to and not a spec. The RPA can spec any type of fence it wants as long as the end product is built to the standard.
Tubbylew
Member
- Location
- Herefordshire
Yeah ok, I see what you mean, possibly they're being deliberately obtuse to look for reasons not to pay out.
- Location
- Northumberland
Stupid question, but if they come and inspect you, do they ever ask what you did with the old fencing materials (wanting to see waste transfer receipts etc)?
JPB
Member
- Location
- North Yorkshire
How soon do they normally pay out? Put claim in about 2 weeks ago
- Location
- Northumberland
- Location
- West Somerset
Have Never got it before 6 weeks!
- Location
- Minehead,Somerset
6-20 weeks for HLS and only got it at 20 weeks as I went higher up in RPA thanks to @Formatted who gave me a contact .
Who was the contact?
Also I've heard rumbling from other sources that you are no longer allowed to use "recycled" material to put up stewardship fences ? So no more railway sleepers and Tele poles then ? Put some up last year using them and it was no problem!
- Location
- Northumberland
I can’t see in the standards where it specifies “New”, but my advisor tells me that that’s what they want to see. Also, the spec does specify “softwood”- I’ve got no idea what those heavy old sleepers are (70% tar, probably…)
I’ve heard that people can get into arguments with them to get their grant money.