Grazing income

[Anymulewilldo]

Thanks that's helpful. It's really hard trying to get a handle on what we could expect or reasonably accept. It's good land and it is desirable, so we just need a figure to start with I think.

It’s alright, after 5 years of auctioning the summer and winter grazing it won’t be good ground anymore. Around here you are looking at £100/acre for that sort of cattle grazing. More important than the last shilling is having someone who will look after the land rather than rape it for every bit of nutrient your soil contains...

 

[Thick Farmer]

I’ve rented some land near me for 4 years on a headache basis, I had 35 in a field last year but 5 came home because they had dead lambs and went back 7-10 days later, I didn’t take their time off the cheque but then when 1 ram went there for 21 days I was asked to pay for it There’s 150 ewes there almost all year so not like the ram was a good % of the cost.
Apart from winter tack I’d never do anything on a headache basis again, it’s a nightmare to follow if it’s to the individual animal, I know someone near you Derrick who you’d know who said they pay to the nearest 10 sheep

Headache

 

[Al R]

Headache

It is when every individual animal has to be accounted for by the day, sending the self invoice for what’s been there for so long but then a list of individuals which died in that 2 month period paying for them until the day they died

 

[Anymulewilldo]

It is when every individual animal has to be accounted for by the day, sending the self invoice for what’s been there for so long but then a list of individuals which died in that 2 month period paying for them until the day they died

oh dear god!!

 

[Derrick Hughes]

oh dear god!!

He won't help you,

 

[Tim W]

It is when every individual animal has to be accounted for by the day, sending the self invoice for what’s been there for so long but then a list of individuals which died in that 2 month period paying for them until the day they died

Movement records on excel sheet
Then it's very simple to calculate a headage payment
Many of mine are done this way----takes 5 mins to do each bill every 6 months

 

[aangus]

Keep it simple £5 per cow per week.

Aye that’s more like it, earlier on someone mentioned £1.50/week

 

[Fendt65]

Can this thread be taken down before some of my landlords see this.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Can this thread be taken down before some of my landlords see this[emoji33].

[emoji23] I hope my tenants are looking

 

[chaffcutter]

Talk to your local agents, there is an auction sale of grass keep locally here every spring, if it’s in good condition it can make a lot of money.

 

[pgk]

Talk to your local agents, there is an auction sale of grass keep locally here every spring, if it’s in good condition it can make a lot of money.

Always surprises me, 2 keen bidders and price paid can be silly, personally I would destock some of my poorer stock rather than pay over the odds. Neighbour to FIL will pay mega money for land locally, overstocks, leaves it in terrible condition and then local landed gentry come cap in hand asking FIL what can be done to sort it out

 

[True North]

It’s alright, after 5 years of auctioning the summer and winter grazing it won’t be good ground anymore. Around here you are looking at £100/acre for that sort of cattle grazing. More important than the last shilling is having someone who will look after the land rather than rape it for every bit of nutrient your soil contains...

Yes they would be good for looking after it, it's just been a case of figuring out what we should roughly expect.

Can I just say, this is not a focus on the money, it is a question about what we can reasonably expect.

We know there are lots of variables and we would obviously want people who are decent and we think we have that.

We just didn't want to be offered £20 per acre and not know any different really.

 

[True North]

The top price is not always the best return
You want a trusted genuine farmer that’s local and will look after it like it’s his own
Also its 20 acre of grass, it will not get you rich or give a good return on investment farming it, it’s more important to retain good farming practice and keep it worth something

I understand that it will not make me rich, and we probably wont be going to auction or anything, we just wanted a baseline figure to negotiate with our prospective grazers.

This is the aim for us really, we are just considering some fields as income whilst perhaps doing some on a smaller scale ourselves.

 

[True North]

Hi,

I know this can vary region to region massively, but i'd like an idea of per acre if we were to let around 20 acres in Calderdale, West Yorkshire for grazing.

I've found the internet vague with prices as it never says whether it's per year or month.

It's good land, wanted and has water but we just don't know what to suggest price wise if we are to progress with considering it for a grazing agreement.

It would be for grazing only, for around 20 cows.

Can anyone give me an idea of what we should consider please?
[/QUOTE]

Thank you to everyone that has replied.

This is not a post about us trying to make over the odds on the land, it was about an idea of what we could reasonably expect as we are fairly new to this!

I know it can vary area to area, hence my stating the borough we are in. Anyway thank you all we have a starting point to consider!

 

[Derrick Hughes]

If you have any local farmer friends they a word with them is the best start. They will advise on who is who

 

[True North]

If you have any local farmer friends they a word with them is the best start. They will advise on who is who

Yep, I think the issue is that the people we have in mind, don't know how much to offer and we don't know what we can reasonably expect, so we need to meet somehwere in the middle.

They are good for all the other variables, thanks again Derrick.

 

[True North]

If you have any local farmer friends they a word with them is the best start. They will advise on who is who

Yep, I think the issue is that the people we have in mind, don't know how much to offer and we don't know what we can reasonably expect, so we need to meet somehwere in the middle.

They are good for all the other variables, thanks again Derrick.

 

[The Seeker]

60 quid an acre per year you fix the fences you claim any subs

 

[pgk]

Yep, I think the issue is that the people we have in mind, don't know how much to offer and we don't know what we can reasonably expect, so we need to meet somehwere in the middle.

They are good for all the other variables, thanks again Derrick.

I pay £70/acre for slightly larger area of strong ground, ridge and furrow pp on annual grazing licence, I have to top by beginning of August if significant heading of grasses, water is supplied off spring and I supply troughs and water pipes as I split into paddocks. Landlord spot sprays thistles. Usually go on mid March to lamb and run sheep on and off to end of January. Always keep the place immaculate and sort any fencing issues which suits retired farmer who manages it on behalf of family members who own it.

 

[True North]

I pay £70/acre for slightly larger area of strong ground, ridge and furrow pp on annual grazing licence, I have to top by beginning of August if significant heading of grasses, water is supplied off spring and I supply troughs and water pipes as I split into paddocks. Landlord spot sprays thistles. Usually go on mid March to lamb and run sheep on and off to end of January. Always keep the place immaculate and sort any fencing issues which suits retired farmer who manages it on behalf of family members who own it.

How does the whole fencing land that doesn't belong to you work? I understand that can be tricky or contentious?