Heifer destroyed with Court Order

Danllan

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Actually its not impossible, if you have a clearly defined workable strategy then why would it not be achievable?
Its quite clear that the UK's strategy for TB in cattle and deer is quite blatantly flawed hence its failure due to political interference.
Ffs, figger it out.
See below. (y)

...But 'TB free status' is impossible as things stand...
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Actually its not impossible, if you have a clearly defined workable strategy then why would it not be achievable?
Its quite clear that the UK's strategy for TB in cattle and deer is quite blatantly flawed hence its failure due to political interference.
Ffs, figger it out.
You are right. It worked for foot and mouth disease I have to admit,
the whys wherefore are a bit of a separate debate /even though it was a harsh experience to go through ...it worked, it worked in a way that vaccination wouldn't have .
 

Its a hard life

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We tried that, using a superbly tested PCR assay. It worked. But then Warwick Uni, having trousered the thick end of £750K announced that they didn't want it used to kill badgers.

yes, seen here in this lovely film
 
yes, seen here in this lovely film

That was a gut wrenching visit to Warwick for Mrs. Quinn. And not the reaction we'd expected from Liz Wellington. Especially as the year trial she did with qPCR pinned the main sets responsible for zTB in Woodchester park to just two groups. Illustration from her Symposium.
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More on the background to qPCR here:


and here:


We're looking at extremely creative inertia here, with the excuses for doing sweet FA not only highly imaginative, but very destructive.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
That was a gut wrenching visit to Warwick for Mrs. Quinn. And not the reaction we'd expected from Liz Wellington. Especially as the year trial she did with qPCR pinned the main sets responsible for zTB in Woodchester park to just two groups. Illustration from her Symposium.
View attachment 964213

More on the background to qPCR here:


and here:


We're looking at extremely creative inertia here, with the excuses for doing sweet FA not only highly imaginative, but very destructive.
an other problem is even after that crap is confirmed as belonging to a particular setts occupants, as happens often that sett could be on a different property /over the boundary, that different landowner has also then to be onboard and agree to the job .
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
we are lucky, very close to main A303, very effective cull there, plenty on side of road, even more just off, and out of sight, in hedges or ditches etc, and not to many other cattle around us. This does create an enigma, if we are 'clean', do we leave our healthy badgers alone, in the hope they keep infected out. We are in a cull, year 1, we culled heavily, because we went down, nothing grown in lab, or keep going, and hope infected don't come in. We are in a very high density badger area, 185 acres, 18 active setts, even min chap was suprised at the number.
 
an other problem is even after that crap is confirmed as belonging to a particular setts occupants, as happens often that sett could be on a different property /over the boundary, that different landowner has also then to be onboard and agree to the job .

Yup. Which is why APHA (or whatever they’re calling themselves this week) need to take control. The old ‘clean ring’ culls culled out in a circle until badgers tested clear. That ended in1987, replaced by the Interim period, which not only reduced the ring from 7km to just 1 km, but then only allowed culling if badgers were on land cattle had grazed.

So, as you say, in arable, woodland or somewhere cattle had not grazed, their ancestral home was out of bounds. And the gassing in clean ring, was replaced with highly visible, frequently damaged and not always entered, cage traps.

Ten years into that period the moratorium of 1997 stopped all culling “to stop the spread of disease” which had been covered in the Protection of Badgers Act. 1992.

The rest is history.
 

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