Is it just me?

How many times has the gov been criticised for being too slow to react, now they are too quick, just seems to me that folk just want to moan, same with the exam thing, government had nothing to do with the downgrading of results its thecexam boards job, yet somehow its governments fault, even after the changes england had the highest results ever, scotland by over14 % and some still dont believe teachers were "generous" in their grading.

It was a cocked hat. Tell the universities what mock exam and course work grades they got and go with that. Fudging snowflakes complaining their grades were downgraded makes me livid- I achieved distinction on all modules and distinction for every exam or piece of work submitted and I was still rejected, show me the sense in that?
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
How many times has the gov been criticised for being too slow to react, now they are too quick, just seems to me that folk just want to moan, same with the exam thing, government had nothing to do with the downgrading of results its thecexam boards job, yet somehow its governments fault, even after the changes england had the highest results ever, scotland by over14 % and some still dont believe teachers were "generous" in their grading.

The government is always accountable. If they get it right, by luck or design they are quick to take the credit, if the mess up they should always be held to account. The algorithm used in this years exams was flawed, as can be seen in the trial they carried out on last years actual results prior to using it, when it failed to predict 50% of the actual results correctly.
 
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southwest
No reason why the government couldn't have given five to seven days notice of their intentions and spared a lot of anguish and expense. But, I expect it was done quickly as a "dead cat" to try and deflect some of the mayhem in the exam debacle. Just more government by chaos.

Just the opposite IMO.

If there's a risk, there's a risk. It doesn't start at a given time. Govt should have imposed an immediate quarantine, not given a warning. When there's a FMD or Tb outbreak, the movement ban is immediate (for FMD it's actually before a case is confirmed) Defra doesn't say "We have a confirmed case of FMD on a farm, movement restrictions will be put in place in a few days time"

How many of this idiots rushing back to beat the deadline will bring the infection back with them?
 

bobk

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Location
stafford
Just the opposite IMO.

If there's a risk, there's a risk. It doesn't start at a given time. Govt should have imposed an immediate quarantine, not given a warning. When there's a FMD or Tb outbreak, the movement ban is immediate (for FMD it's actually before a case is confirmed) Defra doesn't say "We have a confirmed case of FMD on a farm, movement restrictions will be put in place in a few days time"

How many of this idiots rushing back to beat the deadline will bring the infection back with them?
Why are they idiots ?
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
The whole thing is crazy, everybody should be quarantining after travel anywhere.
My 78 year old neighbours are fuming again they were booked to Spain but had to cancel that, so they were going to visit her sister in France and now have to cancel that.
They are pensioners for F*** sake, what would it matter if they did have to quarantine? I offered to get supplies in for the silly old fools

Since the FCO advised against “all but essential” travel there, any normal travel insurance policy would be null and void if they went. Not everyone can afford to pay repatriation costs and other expenses if the worst should happen - as you know only too well.
 
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southwest
Or selflessly getting the economy started again. Discuss

Pros of international travel:

An airline, a holiday company and a couple other businesses make make a bit of money.

Cons of international travel:

The spread of a virus that has killed millions and wrecked every major economy.

End of debate.


Restart business. So a few thousand people may die. I don't care as long as my shop/travel agency/beauty salon/ hotel/cafe is OK
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
Pros of international travel:

An airline, a holiday company and a couple other businesses make make a bit of money.

Cons of international travel:

The spread of a virus that has killed millions and wrecked every major economy.

End of debate.


Restart business. So a few thousand people may die. I don't care as long as my shop/travel agency/beauty salon/ hotel/cafe is OK
The virus hasn’t wrecked the economy the response to it has. We can all stay at home no problem just as long as we have money for food and electricity and heating etc and when that money runs out then what. If you’re comfortable lucky you but in this day and age the majority of people work in service industry such as tourism or in restaurants or shops and if people don’t get out and about and spending money then the future is pretty bleak. So no I don’t think that’s the end of the debate at all.
 

Moors Farmer

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Location
Somerset
Pros of international travel:

An airline, a holiday company and a couple other businesses make make a bit of money.

Cons of international travel:

The spread of a virus that has killed millions and wrecked every major economy.

End of debate.


Restart business. So a few thousand people may die. I don't care as long as my shop/travel agency/beauty salon/ hotel/cafe is OK
Last I heard, it hadn't killed a million, yet. Let alone multiple millions.
As ever, happy to be corrected, though...
 

bobk

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Location
stafford
Since the FCO advised against “all but essential” travel there, any normal travel insurance policy would be null and void if they went. Not everyone can afford to pay repatriation costs and other expenses if the worst should happen - as you know only too well.
A valid point , but as insurance are no longer covering the cost of covid it's hardly worth having , the ehic card will cover most eventualities .
Of course there are exceptions , like stupid.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
A valid point , but as insurance are no longer covering the cost of covid it's hardly worth having , the ehic card will cover most eventualities .
Of course there are exceptions , like stupid.

If the policy and booking were taken out before Covid started, then it’s probably still valid. And some new policies cover it too, if you shop around. I was thinking of unconnected expensive events though - there’s a load more in travel policies than just medical matters.
 

bobk

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Location
stafford
If the policy and booking were taken out before Covid started, then it’s probably still valid. And some new policies cover it too, if you shop around. I was thinking of unconnected expensive events though - there’s a load more in travel policies than just medical matters.
Oddly I have breakdown insurance , which on further reading says we cannot be collected from a french toll road as it's private .... not much use then
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
Oddly I have breakdown insurance , which on further reading says we cannot be collected from a french toll road as it's private .... not much use then

Was at Le Mans for the 24hrs a few years ago and the chap in the hotel room next to us killed the clutch on his F40, so phoned Ferrari of Kensington to send a man and covered trailer over and take it back. I did wonder what that would have cost. Luckily, his mate had a spare seat in his Ford GT, and the rest of the party shared a Ford GT40, Ferrari F50 and Audi RS6 (for the luggage). I felt very inadequate with my humble Golf GTi.
 

bobk

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Location
stafford
Was at Le Mans for the 24hrs a few years ago and the chap in the hotel room next to us killed the clutch on his F40, so phoned Ferrari of Kensington to send a man and covered trailer over and take it back. I did wonder what that would have cost. Luckily, his mate had a spare seat in his Ford GT, and the rest of the party shared a Ford GT40, Ferrari F50 and Audi RS6 (for the luggage). I felt very inadequate with my humble Golf GTi.
I encountered that lot last year on the way back , slowed down at every tunnel so they could get some verbal going , got tedious after 6 ...
 

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