Jury service

[Anymulewilldo]

Medical secretaries/ Testing lab admin
Safety critical engineering functions.
Power station control room
Ambulance dispatchers.
Air traffic controllers.

and plenty more.

Jobs that generally operate with a team of people, so one member of staff on jury duty can be covered by the others. NOT workers who operate either as one man bands or very small workforces covering a large throughput. Totally different circumstances to livestock farmers.

 

[Highland Mule]

Jobs that generally operate with a team of people, so one member of staff on jury duty can be covered by the others. NOT workers who operate either as one man bands or very small workforces covering a large throughput. Totally different circumstances to livestock farmers.

Different, yes, but no less important and often more so. Plenty of specialists fall into the second of those categories and are not parts of a team - that’s how they can command £00’s per hour to fix things.

 

[kiwi pom]

not that simple when you have sheep spread over a 30 mile radius from the home unit. had too be there for 9, that means leaving home at 7 too get into the city. In February its pitch black. finished between 4 & 5 if not dismissed before. so 2 hours home puts it at 7pm, again its pitch black.

Might fit some people, completely impractical for me

Being self employed I would receive no more money than I would at home as it is based on an average of 3 months income.

Harder to do in winter I agree but have it transferred to summer, everything out grazing it wouldn't be too bad, unless you're moving break fences every day?
I'm not trying to have a go here but there's plenty of people/jobs out there where it would also be difficult to manage Jury service.
A sheep farm in the middle of summer wouldn't be any more difficult than a range of jobs.
I don't know how the compensation works there, it's not flash here.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Medical secretaries/ Testing lab admin
Safety critical engineering functions.
Power station control room
Ambulance dispatchers.
Air traffic controllers.

and plenty more.

So not one man bands with no one to cover.

 

[ollie989898]

Jobs that generally operate with a team of people, so one member of staff on jury duty can be covered by the others. NOT workers who operate either as one man bands or very small workforces covering a large throughput. Totally different circumstances to livestock farmers.

Trouble is, many of the described vocations will be in shifts. Losing a team member for several days may not be an option because the industries involved in all likelihood have strict regulations about how many hours they can work and what rest periods they have. There will not be legions of reactor operators in the UK if you get what I mean.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Trouble is, many of the described vocations will be in shifts. Losing a team member for several days may not be an option because the industries involved in all likelihood have strict regulations about how many hours they can work and what rest periods they have. There will not be legions of reactor operators in the UK if you get what I mean.

To be fair, the legal system recognises that for a variety of reasons it’s not practical for some to do jury service and if you have a valid reason you will be excused.
As said earlier, jury service is a civic duty which all should do iif called providing it is reasonably practical/possible to do so, I don’t think anyone with a valid reason why it wouldn’t be practical to do so is forced to and hopefully no decent person would look for an excuse to avoid jury service just because they don’t want to.

 

[Bloders]

Its not about whose job is more important. Its about who's job carries more responsibilities, if those escaped sheep

Just so you know, my job carries the responsability, just like you, that I can go and stay at her majestys hotel if i do it wrong. Mine has the safety of people at the heart of it.

 

[Highland Mule]

Just so you know, my job carries the responsability, just like you, that I can go and stay at her majestys hotel if i do it wrong. Mine has the safety of people at the heart of it.

Yep, it's not the livestock farming part of my life that keeps me awake at night with worry, and it's not the livestock farming part that requires multi million pound professional indemnity insurance. Sadly, it's not the livestock farming that pays the bills either. Sure, it's important and if I get it wrong then animals can suffer, but it's not going to result in another Buncefield, Ladbrooke Grove, Kegworth, Bhopal or Chernobyl.

 

[fieldfarmer]

What would happen if the Rpa or trading standards were to turn up for a spot inspection? over the years have had both and you HAVE to be available , the sheep ear tag spot inspection he was in the yard introducing himself and it had to be done that day.

 

[Breakthru]

He will be asked a number of questions regarding suitability. Comes over as sexist racist and homophobic to boot.
In the process of joining a right wing party against BLM.
He will be discarded.

 

[Highland Mule]

What would happen if the Rpa or trading standards were to turn up for a spot inspection? over the years have had both and you HAVE to be available , the sheep ear tag spot inspection he was in the yard introducing himself and it had to be done that day.

Any unscheduled visitor would find a locked front door - same as they would if I was at the market or working on away land. They can call my mobile and wait until I come back, exactly the same as for yourself. There's no law that says I have to be on site 24/7 and inspections don't have to be M-F during office hours. Last inspector told me it had to be started that day, so I told her to look at the field next to the house, from the road, and count that as a start. It was finished a few days later at a time of my convenience.

 

[Henarar]

Yep, it's not the livestock farming part of my life that keeps me awake at night with worry, and it's not the livestock farming part that requires multi million pound professional indemnity insurance. Sadly, it's not the livestock farming that pays the bills either. Sure, it's important and if I get it wrong then animals can suffer, but it's not going to result in another Buncefield, Ladbrooke Grove, Kegworth, Bhopal or Chernobyl.

Do you ever have a holiday for more than say two days ?

 

[Highland Mule]

Do you ever have a holiday for more than say two days ?

Plenty of them, probably more than most. But I plan those for when I know my work can allow it - not in the middle of a major project - and manage client expectations accordingly.

 

[Henarar]

Plenty of them, probably more than most. But I plan those for when I know my work can allow it - not in the middle of a major project - and manage client expectations accordingly.

Nart blows up while your off sunning yourself then ?

 

[Highland Mule]

Nart blows up while your off sunning yourself then ?

That’s the beauty of project work - it’s somebody else’s problem after I’m done.

 

[Henarar]

That’s the beauty of project work - it’s somebody else’s problem after I’m done.

Quite

 

[topground]

Just stumbled across Channel 89 on Freeview. The death of George Floyd jury selection in the USA Easy to get struck out as both sides get a chance to cross examine potential jurors. Defence get 15 chances to throw out. Prosecution 9.

 

[ollie989898]

What would happen if the Rpa or trading standards were to turn up for a spot inspection? over the years have had both and you HAVE to be available , the sheep ear tag spot inspection he was in the yard introducing himself and it had to be done that day.

There are some pig and poultry units I can think of where I would pay good money to see RPA staff, the EA or anyone similar turn up unannounced and try to gain entry. If spotted, I suspect the owners (and operators in most cases) would likely eat them for breakfast.

 

[oldoaktree]

Recently did Jury Duty though about trying to get out of but it was probably just delaying it .
Called for 2 weeks ended up doing 4 days 2 of them half days . Interesting in many ways but boring in others lots of sitting about . I didn’t start until about 9.30am and generally out by 4.30 . You can claim up to about £65 per day plus parking and lunch expense . Did one case it got wrapped up by the Thursday morning. Started the 2nd case did a few of the preliminaries then all of the other jurors got picked except me . Taken off to a room where there was 2 other jurors, one had been there for nearly two weeks and not been picked for a case . Told to call at 3 on the Friday to see what I was supposed for the next week and was told I’d finished my jury service.

 

[D14]

What would happen if the Rpa or trading standards were to turn up for a spot inspection? over the years have had both and you HAVE to be available , the sheep ear tag spot inspection he was in the yard introducing himself and it had to be done that day.

It was about 3 years ago an RPA inspector rang me and said I will be with you in 2 hours time. I said good luck as the farm is shut I am on holiday. He was insistant so turned up as I could see him on the cctv. He rang again asking where I was, to which I told him again I was on holiday in cornwall. He asked me to return the 5 hour drive to which I politely declined. He actually put the phone down on me.
Then about a month later he rang again on a friday saying he would be an hour. I was 3 hours away on my way to a wedding. He told me continual refusal to an inspector will results in action being taken.
I had his name by this time so I made a formal complaint about him and was then contacted by a very nice lady who booked the inspection in a month in advance and it was fine when she arrived and completed it.
So the point is, they can turn up all they like but if you aren't on site, you aren't on site and there is nothing they can do about it.