Leading tine on a Claydon drill.

[Sprayer 1]

Would the leading tine on the claydon create enough drainage to keep the deluge of water we have had this year ,away from the seed so that it doesn't blow and rot if drilled in reasonable conditions?

 

[Woody j]

Would the leading tine on the claydon create enough drainage to keep the deluge of water we have had this year ,away from the seed so that it doesn't blow and rot if drilled in reasonable conditions?

No

 

[Adeptandy]

You need a Triton for that

 

[willyorkshire]

Biggest difference for us with strip till is that it's totally stopped erosion on our sloping wolds land. The only one with some runoff is after potatoes when we have to cultivate to level it. Probably should ditch the spuds! It walks the worst too. Pudding springs to mind.

 

[Sprayer 1]

You need a Triton for that

I've seen the videos and the results, but if I planted a wheat seed into mud it would rot.

 

[Adeptandy]

I've seen the videos and the results, but if I planted a wheat seed into mud it would rot.

All joking aside I think they do look a decent drill and I would buy one if I could justify it

 

[Pigless]

Use to have a sumo DTS and the seed would sit on a smeared ledge in wet conditions, great in the dry.
Got a Triton now and the drainage is much better.

 

[Alistair Nelson]

Use to have a sumo DTS and the seed would sit on a smeared ledge in wet conditions, great in the dry.
Got a Triton now and the drainage is much better.

How do you live with the triton poor quality frame design and blacksmith build quality after having the sumo. I know it doesn’t make the crop grow but still they’re not great on that front

 

[Pigless]

How do you live with the triton poor quality frame design and blacksmith build quality after having the sumo. I know it doesn’t make the crop grow but still they’re not great on that front

Mine was built by cousins of emeth and the welds etc are fine. It will definitely outlast the dts . The bit I struggle to live with is the depth wheels out the back, I promised myself I would fix some in amongst the times somehow.
But in reality there's not much room and I have not needed to. After two seasons my crop establishment is the best and most consistent I have ever had.

 

[Alistair Nelson]

Mine was built by cousins of emeth and the welds etc are fine. It will definitely outlast the dts . The bit I struggle to live with is the depth wheels out the back, I promised myself I would fix some in amongst the times somehow.
But in reality there's not much room and I have not needed to. After two seasons my crop establishment is the best and most consistent I have ever had.

That's interesting as Covenbrook were building them but that appears to have come to an end

 

[Pigless]

That's interesting as Covenbrook were building them but that appears to have come to an end

I was told it was just a batch to help keep up with demand.

 

[Honeybadger]

How do you live with the triton poor quality frame design and blacksmith build quality after having the sumo. I know it doesn’t make the crop grow but still they’re not great on that front

Covenbrook frame is good quality. What’s poor about the design?

 

[Sprayer 1]

Use to have a sumo DTS and the seed would sit on a smeared ledge in wet conditions, great in the dry.
Got a Triton now and the drainage is much better.

I think this is what happens with my simtech in the wet.
I like the design of the triton but have been told a 3 metre is deceptively hard to pull.

 

[Alistair Nelson]

Covenbrook frame is good quality. What’s poor about the design?

The positioning of the wheels as mentioned above the lack of finesse and shape in the frame and hopper design. It’s very simple / functional yes but it’s crude and if anything shows the lack of experience and history in designing this sort of machine particularly when you stand it next to the other offerings in the market now at a similar price level. Basically you can tell it was designed and built initially by a farmer nothing wrong with that but when your trying to market it nationwide and develop a story and brand that type design starts to look primitive and lacking finesse

 

[willyorkshire]

IMO DTS press/depth wheels are both it's best feature and limiting feature. Great control but when it's (too) wet they ball up and can stop turning. Tbh by that point shouldn't be in the field.
We went down strip till route to slash costs without compromising output, which we have done. If anything output edged up. Simply rake, spray off, drill.

 

[Pigless]

The positioning of the wheels as mentioned above the lack of finesse and shape in the frame and hopper design. It’s very simple / functional yes but it’s crude and if anything shows the lack of experience and history in designing this sort of machine particularly when you stand it next to the other offerings in the market now at a similar price level. Basically you can tell it was designed and built initially by a farmer nothing wrong with that but when your trying to market it nationwide and develop a story and brand that type design starts to look primitive and lacking finesse

This was also my initial thoughts, but then a fellow farmer said ' look at the crops not the drill' so I watched others for a couple of years and then bought one.
But I don't need to justify my decision, in happy

 

[BuskhillFarm]

This was also my initial thoughts, but then a fellow farmer said ' look at the crops not the drill' so I watched others for a couple of years and then bought one.
But I don't need to justify my decision, in happy

Do they cope with stones ok? Only negative I can see is they’re just sheer bolt.

 

[Pigless]

I've got plenty of shallow cliff ground with shale type stone, which is a softish stone, and I have not broken one yet. I have chipped the bottom tungsten tile of off a few though.
I know of people with harder rocks who do break a few.

 

[Pigless]

I think this is what happens with my simtech in the wet.
I like the design of the triton but have been told a 3 metre is deceptively hard to pull.

It depends on conditions and how you set it but probably 180hp to allow you to go in deep with the closing time

 

[Brisel]

Would the leading tine on the claydon create enough drainage to keep the deluge of water we have had this year ,away from the seed so that it doesn't blow and rot if drilled in reasonable conditions?

Yes, but lots of caveats with that. Smearing a slot in wet clay won't help. Once the slot is full of water, the seed is fecked. I found it worked well if drilled in better conditions. The original Duet coulters on Horsch CO drills had a slot cut beneath the seed that made a difference in the wet, but the point tip also pulled up clods on worked soils & took extra power to pull.