Limex

[Highland Mule]

Politely, is there any chance you can remove our photo off your FB page @Derrick Hughes ?

Done sorry

It's still there.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

It's still there.

Where

 

[Derrick Hughes]

It's still there.

I've deleted the lot now

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Use my own next time [emoji23]

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Quality Limes Incorporated [emoji23]

 

[Will 1594]

Got 140 tonnes going out today. It is cheaper per tonne but obviously nothing like the NV of quarried lime. Sometimes its a very nice product to spread. Sometimes its black and wet and stinks, usually if some has been dug out of the holding pits or got wet in the heap.
Things to factor in when making your decision. Lower NV so need to apply more pro rata. 30% moisture content. Make your cost comparison by the acre/hectare not per tonne.
There are 'some' nutrients in it. Phosphate 10kg/tonne, Mag 7kg/tonne and Sulphur 6kg/tonne. Varies slightly from factory to factory.
As sure as eggs are eggs @GTB if you need it delivering in an 8 wheeler, you'll not be seeing it unless you've just sold some land for development and are feeling flush??
That mag lime sounds expensive if its only coming 2 hrs. I'm moving some 3 to 4 hrs by road and its a lot less. Possibly you're having it on 8 wheelers though?

Is it any good mounty, beet man peddling it £10 a ton delivered ,
does it have an effect on heavy land , floculation , we high ph in most fields ,

 

[Mounty]

Is it any good mounty, beet man peddling it £10 a ton delivered ,
does it have an effect on heavy land , floculation , we high ph in most fields ,

Big stocks to shift at the moment due to lack of delivered product last year. If you're looking at it for soil conditioning it's not really the right product. For that you need gypsum (calcium sulphate). Sulphur knocks off excessive Mg ions and replaces with Ca, without raising the pH. I wouldn't be recommending Limex on a soil that is already high pH, thats practically mis selling. If you were to push your pH's higher, you'll struggle to get them down.
I could go on, but I won't

 

[Cab-over Pete]

There’s always a salesman…..

 

[Yale]

Big stocks to shift at the moment due to lack of delivered product last year. If you're looking at it for soil conditioning it's not really the right product. For that you need gypsum (calcium sulphate). Sulphur knocks off excessive Mg ions and replaces with Ca, without raising the pH. I wouldn't be recommending Limex on a soil that is already high pH, thats practically mis selling. If you were to push your pH's higher, you'll struggle to get them down.
I could go on, but I won't

So where’s the cheapest place to secure this reduced to clear Limex to North East Wales…….

 

[Mounty]

Ring British Sugar at the Bury factory and ask them. Not sure how competitive it would be to N Wales? Haulage is at a premium at the moment and factoring in the amount you'd need vs ground lime, I still can't see it being competitive on cost.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Do the Experts have an opinion on why some ground i have which is shallow wettish ground peat over clay , not been tested or limed for 30 years, grazing land tested at PH 5.9 , yet other light free draining land that was limed 6 years ago tested at PH 5, but is cut a lot and farmed intensively . laboratory tested, is it the constant cutting or is the test out. I suppose the only way is to retest but was expecting the first to be in the low 5s

 

[Cab-over Pete]

All soils have their natural pH which if left unchanged by man will stay like that for good. Be that a pH of 4.0 or 8.0, all soil has a pH it wants to be.

Cutting and taking crops off land won’t alter the pH.

I would hazard a guess the shallow peat over clay wants to be naturally at 5.9.

The light free draining stuff will be pulled down quickly I would imagine by natural leaching and adding acidic artificial fertiliser.

 

[neilo]

Do the Experts have an opinion on why some ground i have which is shallow wettish ground peat over clay , not been tested or limed for 30 years, grazing land tested at PH 5.9 , yet other light free draining land that was limed 6 years ago tested at PH 5, but is cut a lot and farmed intensively . laboratory tested, is it the constant cutting or is the test out. I suppose the only way is to retest but was expecting the first to be in the low 5s

Has the land that has been farmed intensively and cut a lot had lots of slurry and/or N fertiliser on? Both would tend to acidify things.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Has the land that has been farmed intensively and cut a lot had lots of slurry and/or N fertiliser on? Both would tend to acidify things.

Yes

 

[Wisconsonian]

To weigh in on last years argument on neutralizing value. According to Wikipedia, beet lime is fully carbonated, calcium carbonate, so the same chemically as ag lime as a percentage of calcium carbonate. During the process it is introduced as slaked lime, or probably burnt lime mixed with water on site, but leaves the process fully slaked and carbonated, that is calcium carbonate, not calcium hydroxide, or calcium oxide. Being burnt and dissolved in the process, it will be very fine and reactive, to the extent it is spread evenly. Right?


from Cornell University for relative neutralizing value of limes.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

The man from BS in charge told be it comes in as massive limestone rocks , no crushing involved , it is cooked at high temperature,
My opinion is from my limited experience here is that it's the fasting acting lime you can get , but that's just my opinion from testing , I am not interested in defending that argument