Grassman
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- Derbyshire
Neighbour Wanting Access.
- Thread starter Cab-over Pete
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Tomr10
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- Montgomeryshire
Cab-over Pete
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- Location
- Kenilworth, Warwickshire
You can see I spend more time on gardening than I do on diy
It saves on window cleaning costs though.
It saves on window cleaning costs though.
solo
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- Location
- worcestershire
Your field isn’t blighted by any ancient monument do not disturb clauses if it’s close to the castle? That may alter your options somewhat.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Not a chance. Your looking at a single payment for an easement, and that will last forever. Leases of the subsoil are for power stations, not private houses, and certainly not for domestic water supplies.
Cab-over Pete
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- Location
- Kenilworth, Warwickshire
Met up with him yesterday.
Started off pleasant enough.
He said, more or less, let's do it the friendly neighbourly way, I will get a private contractor in to cut the trench and put in the ducting and then make good. Then BT will just pull the cable through and job done.
I said when? He said ASAP.
I said no chance until its been dry a month because its like a bog you can hardly walk across at the moment, he says bugger.
I said also lets talk about an easement at which he says if I don't let him BT will implement some kind of compulsory power and cut the trench themselves at his instruction in the wet.
I said don't be daft, it's a fecking fibre cable to one private house which already has 32 MB and gets 4G (he told me that already) so to be blunt the new cable is a luxury.
He gets a bit edgy when I also suggest I suspect he wants it to feed the 2 storey "block of stables" he has recently applied for planning permission for on a site where a lovely sandstone barn used to stand until it was left to fall down. I don't think he liked that suggestion. I couldn't help but smirk. That made things worse.
Is there such a thing as BT doing whatever they like to install a BT fibre cable? Sounds unlikely. I called the agent we used once years ago for something else and she said no chance, get his contact at BT to email us with details of intent. I've asked him for his contact and he says he can relay any messages. Being obstinate I guess.
How do I contact BT and ask them?
Started off pleasant enough.
He said, more or less, let's do it the friendly neighbourly way, I will get a private contractor in to cut the trench and put in the ducting and then make good. Then BT will just pull the cable through and job done.
I said when? He said ASAP.
I said no chance until its been dry a month because its like a bog you can hardly walk across at the moment, he says bugger.
I said also lets talk about an easement at which he says if I don't let him BT will implement some kind of compulsory power and cut the trench themselves at his instruction in the wet.
I said don't be daft, it's a fecking fibre cable to one private house which already has 32 MB and gets 4G (he told me that already) so to be blunt the new cable is a luxury.
He gets a bit edgy when I also suggest I suspect he wants it to feed the 2 storey "block of stables" he has recently applied for planning permission for on a site where a lovely sandstone barn used to stand until it was left to fall down. I don't think he liked that suggestion. I couldn't help but smirk. That made things worse.
Is there such a thing as BT doing whatever they like to install a BT fibre cable? Sounds unlikely. I called the agent we used once years ago for something else and she said no chance, get his contact at BT to email us with details of intent. I've asked him for his contact and he says he can relay any messages. Being obstinate I guess.
How do I contact BT and ask them?
- Location
- Limousin, France
Don't bother.Met up with him yesterday.
Started off pleasant enough.
He said, more or less, let's do it the friendly neighbourly way, I will get a private contractor in to cut the trench and put in the ducting and then make good. Then BT will just pull the cable through and job done.
I said when? He said ASAP.
I said no chance until its been dry a month because its like a bog you can hardly walk across at the moment, he says bugger.
I said also lets talk about an easement at which he says if I don't let him BT will implement some kind of compulsory power and cut the trench themselves at his instruction in the wet.
I said don't be daft, it's a fecking fibre cable to one private house which already has 32 MB and gets 4G (he told me that already) so to be blunt the new cable is a luxury.
He gets a bit edgy when I also suggest I suspect he wants it to feed the 2 storey "block of stables" he has recently applied for planning permission for on a site where a lovely sandstone barn used to stand until it was left to fall down. I don't think he liked that suggestion. I couldn't help but smirk. That made things worse.
Is there such a thing as BT doing whatever they like to install a BT fibre cable? Sounds unlikely. I called the agent we used once years ago for something else and she said no chance, get his contact at BT to email us with details of intent. I've asked him for his contact and he says he can relay any messages. Being obstinate I guess.
How do I contact BT and ask them?
Write your agents details down. Put in writing that your neighbour is to go through your agent.
Instruct your agent.
Sleep like a baby
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Met up with him yesterday.
Started off pleasant enough.
He said, more or less, let's do it the friendly neighbourly way, I will get a private contractor in to cut the trench and put in the ducting and then make good. Then BT will just pull the cable through and job done.
I said when? He said ASAP.
I said no chance until its been dry a month because its like a bog you can hardly walk across at the moment, he says bugger.
I said also lets talk about an easement at which he says if I don't let him BT will implement some kind of compulsory power and cut the trench themselves at his instruction in the wet.
I said don't be daft, it's a fecking fibre cable to one private house which already has 32 MB and gets 4G (he told me that already) so to be blunt the new cable is a luxury.
He gets a bit edgy when I also suggest I suspect he wants it to feed the 2 storey "block of stables" he has recently applied for planning permission for on a site where a lovely sandstone barn used to stand until it was left to fall down. I don't think he liked that suggestion. I couldn't help but smirk. That made things worse.
Is there such a thing as BT doing whatever they like to install a BT fibre cable? Sounds unlikely. I called the agent we used once years ago for something else and she said no chance, get his contact at BT to email us with details of intent. I've asked him for his contact and he says he can relay any messages. Being obstinate I guess.
How do I contact BT and ask them?
You don’t. Just sit back and wait for BT to contact you, then say no, unless they have a compulsory letter.
Even if the neighbour is a reasonable chap you dont know who he may sell to in the future , have a rolling 12 month contract drawn up ( at his expense) and charge a pepper corn rent , if you get fed up you can just cancel.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Sadly, the second your neighbour started acting like a cock, it should have just been an instant referral to an agent. They will be back all sorry when they find out the reality .
I agree with HM but if you do want to take the initiative it's Openreach you need to be talking to, not BT.
They can do what they like but they are unlikely to use those powers to service a single property which already has a service which exceeds the universal service obligation. In any case they will come and talk to you and try to come to a mutually acceptable agreement before they consider going down the compulsory route.
I suspect he hasn't actually discussed it with Openreach yet. They will want to supply the ducting and any service chambers etc, they won't just pull their own cable into any old duct laid by an unknown contractor. They will also want to have full legal ownership of the hardware so they won't be doing anything without a binding contract. They would have told him this already if he has really been in touch with them.
Best way to contact Openreach if you want to is to look for someone driving around in a smaller van (the big vans are for the technicians, the smaller vans are used by the planners and managers) and ask them. Failing that, you are probably In for several frustrating hours on the phone.
They can do what they like but they are unlikely to use those powers to service a single property which already has a service which exceeds the universal service obligation. In any case they will come and talk to you and try to come to a mutually acceptable agreement before they consider going down the compulsory route.
I suspect he hasn't actually discussed it with Openreach yet. They will want to supply the ducting and any service chambers etc, they won't just pull their own cable into any old duct laid by an unknown contractor. They will also want to have full legal ownership of the hardware so they won't be doing anything without a binding contract. They would have told him this already if he has really been in touch with them.
Best way to contact Openreach if you want to is to look for someone driving around in a smaller van (the big vans are for the technicians, the smaller vans are used by the planners and managers) and ask them. Failing that, you are probably In for several frustrating hours on the phone.
Goweresque
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- Location
- North Wilts
I'd forgotten the bit about there being an alternative route up the access lane.
I'd be very surprised if Openreach decided to use their compulsory powers to force a route over property which does not belong to the person wanting their service when there is an alternative route which does belong to the customer. Openreach certainly won't use their compulsory powers just to save money for a customer.
I'd be very surprised if Openreach decided to use their compulsory powers to force a route over property which does not belong to the person wanting their service when there is an alternative route which does belong to the customer. Openreach certainly won't use their compulsory powers just to save money for a customer.
RushesToo
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- Fingringhoe
Well done Pete, I thought you might cave.Met up with him yesterday.
Started off pleasant enough.
He said, more or less, let's do it the friendly neighbourly way, I will get a private contractor in to cut the trench and put in the ducting and then make good. Then BT will just pull the cable through and job done.
I said when? He said ASAP.
I said no chance until its been dry a month because its like a bog you can hardly walk across at the moment, he says bugger.
I said also lets talk about an easement at which he says if I don't let him BT will implement some kind of compulsory power and cut the trench themselves at his instruction in the wet.
I said don't be daft, it's a fecking fibre cable to one private house which already has 32 MB and gets 4G (he told me that already) so to be blunt the new cable is a luxury.
He gets a bit edgy when I also suggest I suspect he wants it to feed the 2 storey "block of stables" he has recently applied for planning permission for on a site where a lovely sandstone barn used to stand until it was left to fall down. I don't think he liked that suggestion. I couldn't help but smirk. That made things worse.
Is there such a thing as BT doing whatever they like to install a BT fibre cable? Sounds unlikely. I called the agent we used once years ago for something else and she said no chance, get his contact at BT to email us with details of intent. I've asked him for his contact and he says he can relay any messages. Being obstinate I guess.
How do I contact BT and ask them?
Stick with it - all friendly like, but hold the line.
ollie989898
Member
Met up with him yesterday.
Started off pleasant enough.
He said, more or less, let's do it the friendly neighbourly way, I will get a private contractor in to cut the trench and put in the ducting and then make good. Then BT will just pull the cable through and job done.
I said when? He said ASAP.
I said no chance until its been dry a month because its like a bog you can hardly walk across at the moment, he says bugger.
I said also lets talk about an easement at which he says if I don't let him BT will implement some kind of compulsory power and cut the trench themselves at his instruction in the wet.
I said don't be daft, it's a fecking fibre cable to one private house which already has 32 MB and gets 4G (he told me that already) so to be blunt the new cable is a luxury.
He gets a bit edgy when I also suggest I suspect he wants it to feed the 2 storey "block of stables" he has recently applied for planning permission for on a site where a lovely sandstone barn used to stand until it was left to fall down. I don't think he liked that suggestion. I couldn't help but smirk. That made things worse.
Is there such a thing as BT doing whatever they like to install a BT fibre cable? Sounds unlikely. I called the agent we used once years ago for something else and she said no chance, get his contact at BT to email us with details of intent. I've asked him for his contact and he says he can relay any messages. Being obstinate I guess.
How do I contact BT and ask them?
If the bloke is being combative like that and threatening that BT (who are nothing but a private company these days) will magically arrive and trench wherever they like on his say so I would tell the bloke to fudge off.
Compulsory power my arris. Tell him to dig up his own drive. Be done in a day and reinstated, bloke sounds like a complete chancer.
Well having just put new lines in a duct to a new house ,your neighbour is talking bollards.bt came inspect ,and said its going overhead ,that s 2 grand,i said no everything is underground so bt will be the same ,they said not a chance ,if you want a duct you put it in ,so i did ,and i had to pull the cable ,then it took 7 attempts for openreach to connect.your neighbour is a liar
ollie989898
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Even if Openreach played the compulsory card on me, believe me, the neighbour would rue the day he did that because I would be instantly very friendly with a few sorts who might take up my offer of free access to my patch of land to park a few caravans on...