Nelson wheat

[stroller]

Anybody else growing it?

 

[ih1455xl]

6th year now

 

[stroller]

Are you going to use any fungicide?

 

[ih1455xl]

No sprays yet just a flat roll a couple of weeks back found that knocks 4in off the hight will get a cheap flag leaf and ear wash with a bit of poly n to help the protein [get a bonus for 14%] will do 3.5t/ac it’s deep rooting so good in dry aswell

 

[ih1455xl]

Has some last year on so development land was planted and had pre em and nothing else all year them at did 2T/ac 11% protein would have been more if they hadn’t driven all over it

 

[warksfarmer]

Anybody else growing it?

Year 3 and like it. Proteins are very good and 225kg N will hit group 1. Ours has had one fungicide mainly because it was cheap and rain was forecast not because it’s got disease already.

 

[EddieB]

Not yet, got some earmarked for this autumn.

 

[cquick]

Got a letter through today explaining they are moving Nelson to the BIPO royalty scheme.
Agronomically I think it's great but sadly, I think it has to leave the farm.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Got a letter through today explaining they are moving Nelson to the BIPO royalty scheme.
Agronomically I think it's great but sadly, I think it has to leave the farm.

What does this mean for farm saved seed?

 

[cquick]

Costs £7 more per ha (which I'm happy enough with)
More concerned with their terms:

"you should note BIPO reserves the right to audit your records to ensure compliance with the agreement. Please retain records of your purchase or processing of seed and field records showing area and sowing rate to allow BIPO auditors to verify your declarations. To ensure everyone is subject to the same conditions ... BIPO will be undertaking an audit of grower's records on a regular basis"

"The grower will permit an employee, officer or representative of BIPO to have access to the established crops of the varieties and to all documents relating to the use and disposal of seed of the varieties and the produce"

"please note because of the Covid 19 crisis restricting farm visits BIPO may use other methods of checking field data such as satellite image technology"


No thanks.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

What choice do we have?

 

[warksfarmer]

Costs £7 more per ha (which I'm happy enough with)
More concerned with their terms:

"you should note BIPO reserves the right to audit your records to ensure compliance with the agreement. Please retain records of your purchase or processing of seed and field records showing area and sowing rate to allow BIPO auditors to verify your declarations. To ensure everyone is subject to the same conditions ... BIPO will be undertaking an audit of grower's records on a regular basis"

"The grower will permit an employee, officer or representative of BIPO to have access to the established crops of the varieties and to all documents relating to the use and disposal of seed of the varieties and the produce"

"please note because of the Covid 19 crisis restricting farm visits BIPO may use other methods of checking field data such as satellite image technology"


No thanks.

Seems a bit pointless to me. Anybody farm saving a BIPO variety will just call it something else like Crusoe.

 

[robs1]

What choice do we have?

Not use it, they will soon change their mind, this sort of thing is a start of a slippery slope, soon farmers will be no more than serfs creating profits for big business

 

[EddieB]

Not use it, they will soon change their mind, this sort of thing is a start of a slippery slope, soon farmers will be no more than serfs creating profits for big business

To be honest there’s no soon about it, we already are.

 

[Hedger]

From experience it's a bit of a marmite variety, very few homes are keen to handle it now unless there's been a change of policy?

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

From experience it's a bit of a marmite variety, very few homes are keen to handle it now unless there's been a change of policy?

Thought it was quite popular with some but may lack critical mass as a variety.

As far as I know, it's not pushed because it needs fewer inputs. So the agronomists don't like it...

 

[ih1455xl]

Just doing fss declaration and nelson is not on the list any more I’ve emailed BIPO but not had a reply so how do you do the royalties or isn’t there any more ?

 

[Poacher]

Just doing fss declaration and nelson is not on the list any more I’ve emailed BIPO but not had a reply so how do you do the royalties or isn’t there any more ?

I think BIPO will be in touch. It’s now on their list of varieties for collection rather than the BSPB.

 

[nickf]

Just doing fss declaration and nelson is not on the list any more I’ve emailed BIPO but not had a reply so how do you do the royalties or isn’t there any more ?

I just looked at my mobile seed cleaning and dressing invoice and see they haven't collected royalty like they usually do.
Seed cleaner just replied to say they can't collect BIPO royalty.
I have emailed BIPO.
I had never heard of them before, I have no idea why they have not organised for royalty to be paid at point of seed dressing similar to BSPB.