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- Co antrim
Any1 on here ever run owned or seen workin a nh bale stacker? Id love 1 like a 1069 selfproppeled version and would pike to know opinions
New holland bale stacker
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Exfarmer
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We had a 1033 i think! Self stacker Which held 105 bales I think.
A brilliant bit of kit. I am not aware that any SPs came across the pond! But may be wrong.
needs a very good operator! And a baler man to chuck out reasonable tight bales.
There were a fair few models and we never tried to pick up a stack which had been made.
could pick up bales ss fast as they were made and could leave 3000 stacked in a field in a day
A brilliant bit of kit. I am not aware that any SPs came across the pond! But may be wrong.
needs a very good operator! And a baler man to chuck out reasonable tight bales.
There were a fair few models and we never tried to pick up a stack which had been made.
could pick up bales ss fast as they were made and could leave 3000 stacked in a field in a day
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- Co antrim
What was upkeep like and parts availability? Its comin near hay time and the thought of liftin bales by hand is givin me a dose of the scour lol would like to buy 1 in the next few years. Fancied a self propelled 1. I think the 1069 holds 160 odd bales but if i could find a trailed 1 in uk id be interested in it. Did any1 else make them
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You should remember these machines are 40 years old , but they were fairly simple. I would ask CNH about parts.
they like a firm tight bale so hay is soomething we rarely used it for, if ever
did Schuitemaker take up production or was it a look alike
they like a firm tight bale so hay is soomething we rarely used it for, if ever
did Schuitemaker take up production or was it a look alike
Roger Perry
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New Holland still make the "StackCruiser" there are I believe 3 variants, one is for regular bales, next will handle small and large bales and the other is large bales only............they are around 200 HP, superb piece of equipment.
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- Co antrim
Bet theyr not cheap
Exfarmer
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Interesting, thought they had all disappeared when the little bales passed away. I know in Europe a couple of manufacturers have made similar type machines. Schuitemaker in Holland and there was a Spanish firm I believe
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Just been watching some videos of the 9870 in action. Does not seem to be mocking the bales. Ours would mock the layers. By tripping a lever two spikes would come up through the floor piercing the outer edge of the outside bales On the middle platform and the centre bale was pushed back to the first platform . The next bale coming up would then be lifted with this bale to to sit between the two outer ones and another couple again would come up. It made a fantastically tight stack. A good operator could lay the base equivalent to 9 bales high and we would then stack probably another 9 or ten courses on top.
it was fiendishly clever! Ours barely ever missed a beat. The only issue was they were very wide on UK Country roads!
it was fiendishly clever! Ours barely ever missed a beat. The only issue was they were very wide on UK Country roads!
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- Co antrim
Ther sum piece of kit. Cant see any shiutemaker examples for sale. Cant even find pictures. Any1 any idea roughly how much it would take to bring a machine like that home from america or canada
Boohoo
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- Newtownabbey
If you can't find a New Holland Stackliner, what about a Kemper Ballenautomat?
Roger Perry
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Not as much as you might imagine. With roll..roll off you only pay for volume.
If there was enough interest New Holland could perhaps be persuaded...............they have a pretty full line up theses days, their sprayer with front boom looks handy.
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- Co antrim
It would be a second hand 1 id be lookin at buyin. Preferably a 1069 self propelled but depends how much the funds would allow. As for a kemper thers to much to go wrong and doesnt hold enough bales as our ground is scattered about and would possibly use it to deliver to customers
Roger Perry
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No, but in this life this truism stands' above all.......... "you get what you pay for" they are a machine that will hold value.
Like the man said.........We don't do cheap..!
Roger Perry
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As one of the least popular jobs of all time I am surprised that more of your contractors/custom guys have not latched onto offering this as a service................these machines are fast in the field (fast on the road too)
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- Co antrim
This is what am thinkin. We dont do overly amount of hay and barley but enough to sicken ye of liftin bales by hand especially as am the 1 that throws 90% of the bales up onto the trailer but we do a bit of balin to others and mabe would get a wee bit of work with it to help justify it for ourselves. What speed do they do on road?
Roger Perry
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Others may know but ones I see around I would guess 50MPH
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- Co antrim
That wouĺd be handy. Guess thats why ther 200 odd hp cause was wonderin why they needed so much power
BDBed
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- Melton Mowbray
What about a bale bandit or barron?
Goweresque
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- North Wilts
Goweresque
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I looked into these 10 years ago before I bought my Arcusin packer, and came to the conclusion that while a nice idea that works well in the US, the packer beats them for practicality in the UK all ends up.
Firstly for the stackliner you need a range of buildings like in the video so you can stack them inside safely and quickly, whereas with a packer you can utilise any shed you can get a telehandler into. Then you have the problem of different types/qualities of hay - in the UK we don't get the endless sunshine/predictable seasons that they do in the US, so we end up making hay of varying qualities as the year progresses, that you wouldn't want all stacked together, or one lot blocking in the other. Moving the hay once unloaded from a stackliner is difficult whereas moving packs around is no harder than shifting big bales. Quite often I've thought that one of the biggest advantages of small bales in packs is how much it improves logistics on the farm - I probably shift my hay around several times over the winter to allow access to various types for different customers, and then again at the end of winter to create space for the new stuff while still being able to access the old. There's no way you can do that with loose stacked small bales. Add in the width problem I mentioned above, and the fact that second hand ones are going to be decades old, parts would be a nightmare, and its rapidly became a no brainer - a packer was the way to go.
Firstly for the stackliner you need a range of buildings like in the video so you can stack them inside safely and quickly, whereas with a packer you can utilise any shed you can get a telehandler into. Then you have the problem of different types/qualities of hay - in the UK we don't get the endless sunshine/predictable seasons that they do in the US, so we end up making hay of varying qualities as the year progresses, that you wouldn't want all stacked together, or one lot blocking in the other. Moving the hay once unloaded from a stackliner is difficult whereas moving packs around is no harder than shifting big bales. Quite often I've thought that one of the biggest advantages of small bales in packs is how much it improves logistics on the farm - I probably shift my hay around several times over the winter to allow access to various types for different customers, and then again at the end of winter to create space for the new stuff while still being able to access the old. There's no way you can do that with loose stacked small bales. Add in the width problem I mentioned above, and the fact that second hand ones are going to be decades old, parts would be a nightmare, and its rapidly became a no brainer - a packer was the way to go.