No very promising for shellfish producers.

[ollie989898]

The problem is that the purification requires keeping the shell fish in certified pure water for a couple of weeks . This is water without and bacteria or virus contamination from sewage etc. which is not easy to find around the UK.
Sewage contamination os good for shell fish growth but bad for your stomach
However keeping them in pure water is not good for shell fish quality so has preferably been done close to the consumer.

I understand this is done routinely for a lot of shellfish product anyway- they are purged in tanks in which the water quality is tightly controlled. I believe it is done in sea water or something closely approximating it. Friends of mine had a family business doing just this and had tanker loaders of sea water brought to the site for just this purpose. Of course the whole market is orientated around high end restaurants and consumers looking to buy the stuff to eat at home- of which there will be next to zero demand at present I would suggest as we are all in lock down. Certainly, all the product my friend's family prepared was transported to London daily by truck.

 

[Ashtree]

This Brexit malarkey is great craic altogether. Small businesses from Lands End to John O’Groats, under extreme pressure. NI cut off from Blighty. Shellfish industry written off overnight. In fact fishing industry in general pretty much decimated. UK’s most important industry, and biggest tax revenue generator, landed with a no deal scenario. Brandon Lewis insists with a straight face, that there is absolutely no border in the Irish Sea. Gove (with his permanent Gove face) insists “all will be well, don’t panic”!
The guvnor himself, has washed his hands of the whole thing. He’s not saying anything at all.
Have I missed anything?

 

[caveman]

This Brexit malarkey is great craic altogether. Small businesses from Lands End to John O’Groats, under extreme pressure. NI cut off from Blighty. Shellfish industry written off overnight. In fact fishing industry in general pretty much decimated. UK’s most important industry, and biggest tax revenue generator, landed with a no deal scenario. Brandon Lewis insists with a straight face, that there is absolutely no border in the Irish Sea. Gove (with his permanent Gove face) insists “all will be well, don’t panic”!
The guvnor himself, has washed his hands of the whole thing. He’s not saying anything at all.
Have I missed anything?

Sovereignty?

 

[arcobob]

This Brexit malarkey is great craic altogether. Small businesses from Lands End to John O’Groats, under extreme pressure. NI cut off from Blighty. Shellfish industry written off overnight. In fact fishing industry in general pretty much decimated. UK’s most important industry, and biggest tax revenue generator, landed with a no deal scenario. Brandon Lewis insists with a straight face, that there is absolutely no border in the Irish Sea. Gove (with his permanent Gove face) insists “all will be well, don’t panic”!
The guvnor himself, has washed his hands of the whole thing. He’s not saying anything at all.
Have I missed anything?

Plenty more notions you can fabricate I am sure.

 

[arcobob]

I was given to understand from the biggest operator that most of the Wash shellfish went to Asia.

 

[Pasty]

This Brexit malarkey is great craic altogether. Small businesses from Lands End to John O’Groats, under extreme pressure. NI cut off from Blighty. Shellfish industry written off overnight. In fact fishing industry in general pretty much decimated. UK’s most important industry, and biggest tax revenue generator, landed with a no deal scenario. Brandon Lewis insists with a straight face, that there is absolutely no border in the Irish Sea. Gove (with his permanent Gove face) insists “all will be well, don’t panic”!
The guvnor himself, has washed his hands of the whole thing. He’s not saying anything at all.
Have I missed anything?

We'll laugh ourselves to death when Eire leaves too.

 

[Mek]

Yes.
As I've stated before elsewhere.
Back in the day, I hauled many artic loads of produce from the world over, from sea ports and airports, to wholesale markets, pack houses, supermarket distribution hubs, etc.
All fantastic gear.

Makes you wonder why,when everything was so great “back in the day” that the UK wanted to join the common market in the first place !

 

[caveman]

Makes you wonder why,when everything was so great “back in the day” that the UK wanted to join the common market in the first place !

I'm talking 1980's early '90's before things got really shitty.
Basically before Terry and his buddies got a strangle hold on all things retail and turned it cheap and cheerful.

 

[robs1]

Makes you wonder why,when everything was so great “back in the day” that the UK wanted to join the common market in the first place !

Joining a common market is great becoming part of a super state without being asked is not.

 

[essexpete]

Yes of course it has. All third country shellfish is treated as such. Britain chose to be a third country.
So third country it is then.
Now, lets all get on with blaming the EU....

Interestingly I am given to understand quite a lot of our local shell fishermen voted for Brexit. One family could see it coming and have invested to try to make it work.
All the rubbish about getting back fishing grounds was a red herring (NPI). There was a Rad 4 programme recently that explained that a % of a % was recovered meaning about an 8% increase in quota.

 

[Raider112]

This Brexit malarkey is great craic altogether. Small businesses from Lands End to John O’Groats, under extreme pressure. NI cut off from Blighty. Shellfish industry written off overnight. In fact fishing industry in general pretty much decimated. UK’s most important industry, and biggest tax revenue generator, landed with a no deal scenario. Brandon Lewis insists with a straight face, that there is absolutely no border in the Irish Sea. Gove (with his permanent Gove face) insists “all will be well, don’t panic”!
The guvnor himself, has washed his hands of the whole thing. He’s not saying anything at all.
Have I missed anything?

Yes you forgot to mention U turn

 

[caveman]

Yes you forgot to mention U turn

Very hazardous, with others coming the other way, also doing U turns.

 

[Danllan]

I will not argue points of constitutional procedure as I haven't a clue and you will be far more erudite in reply than I can ever be. All I will say is the Brexit Hoodlums and Vandals have waffled on about taking back control and holding to account our domestic politicians. All of which I have thought is phish. Indeed I can recall more than a few Brexit hoodlums on here saying this. And then when it comes to an important moment - as you say fought for by the remain action these same politicians are found wandering off in no mans land. SO all that take back control and hold our UK politician to account - bollox. Nooughts changes maete as us old Fenmen would say. Same old, same old. Ah well best of British.

No, and the word 'hoodlum' could be far better applied - and with far more reason and accuracy - to those who connived in the misappropriation of this country's sovereignty, all the while denying it. Parliament* decided not to exercise its right, something it could do because it was sovereign. If and when it sees fit it will hold HMG to account, haul it over the coals, or even turn it out, because it can.




*I write about what 'is', constitutionally and legally, i.e. that Parliament or, more correctly, that the Queen in Parliament is sovereign. For myself I share the views of the late Tony Benn and Enoch Powell, that the people are sovereign and merely lend it to Parliament in between General Elections, but although I think that a demonstrable fact, it's not how things currently stand.

 

[le bon paysan]

I will assume you are referring to this:

In the Commons, Michael Gove blamed the EU for planning to trigger Article 16 to suspend part of the Northern Ireland Protocol, telling MPs: “Trust has been eroded.”

So you don’t think trust has been eroded? I feel differently.
I can’t see any references to Gove saying everything was perfect in NI before last Friday, can you? Maybe you are twisting things a little?

Boris Johnson said on the 14 th of January that he would invoke article 16, Arlene has been calling for it from before. The link to that has been put up before, if you can't find it I'll do it for you, . The point of my links above was to show Boris inteds to use it at his convenience. BEFORE the EU cock up.
From the paper

The European Commission’s spokesperson, said: “The security of our staff in Northern Ireland is as high a preoccupation as that of any other person working in Northern Ireland on the implementation of the withdrawal agreement.”

In the Commons, Michael Gove blamed the EU for planning to trigger Article 16 to suspend part of the Northern Ireland Protocol, telling MPs: “Trust has been eroded.”

Gove dumped it all on the EU as if nothing had gone before.
He's a twisting liar !
If you choose to believe him after being shown the the chronology. ?!

 

[le bon paysan]

The problem is that the purification requires keeping the shell fish in certified pure water for a couple of weeks . This is water without and bacteria or virus contamination from sewage etc. which is not easy to find around the UK.
Sewage contamination os good for shell fish growth but bad for your stomach
However keeping them in pure water is not good for shell fish quality so has preferably been done close to the consumer.

Yes , did you see that the UK has withdrawn the " Blue flag " clean water standards for beaches
He could have just rolled them over to union jack clean water, but dropped them.

 

[le bon paysan]

I'm talking 1980's early '90's before things got really shitty.
Basically before Terry and his buddies got a strangle hold on all things retail and turned it cheap and cheerful.

And the EU are responsible for the rise of Tesco etc how?

 

[upnortheast]

Makes you wonder why,when everything was so great “back in the day” that the UK wanted to join the common market in the first place !

Because what we voted for in 1972 ( put simply a free trade area ) was an entirely different beast to what exists now

 

[caveman]

And the EU are responsible for the rise of Tesco etc how?

Freedom of movement. Cheap labour and lettuce for starters.

 

[Ashtree]

Because what we voted for in 1972 ( put simply a free trade area ) was an entirely different beast to what exists now

Bless us all. It’s totally unacceptable that things should change from 1972. The Hillman Avenger was in its heyday! Damn fine car too old boy.

 

[B'o'B]

Boris Johnson said on the 14 th of January that he would invoke article 16, Arlene has been calling for it from before. The link to that has been put up before, if you can't find it I'll do it for you, . The point of my links above was to show Boris inteds to use it at his convenience. BEFORE the EU cock up.
From the paper

The European Commission’s spokesperson, said: “The security of our staff in Northern Ireland is as high a preoccupation as that of any other person working in Northern Ireland on the implementation of the withdrawal agreement.”

In the Commons, Michael Gove blamed the EU for planning to trigger Article 16 to suspend part of the Northern Ireland Protocol, telling MPs: “Trust has been eroded.”

Gove dumped it all on the EU as if nothing had gone before.
He's a twisting liar !
If you choose to believe him after being shown the the chronology. ?!

Oh no Boris didn't!
He said he would if it proved necessary in response to a Parliamentary question from a NI MP, a perfectly reasonable response to the question he was asked. A long long long long way short of what UVDL actually did, and did with out consulting anyone.

Twist, twist, twist away @le bon paysan